What is Bitcoin Mining? – NgsCrypto

Proven security!

Want to bitch about Oracle/MS/Adobe's recent exploit even though it's been on the front page for 5 days? Tired of sanitybit's "moderation" and "civility"? Join the circlejerk! Don't get me wrong, I love netsec, it's just some... issues occasionally crop up.

QuarkCoin Cryptocurrency

Quark is a decentralized digital monetary system. It facilitates sending Quarks to Friends, Family Members Online Payments free of charges and charge-backs. Military Grade Encryption. No Bank or Government Control. Quark coins are based on the original idea of Bitcoin but improved, more secure, faster transaction times and zero fees. With improvements to design and security. There is also a greater coin supply with higher block rewards for miners. Quark is fully Open Source.

Ethereum Classic

Ethereum Classic is an open, decentralized, and permissionless public blockchain, that aims to fulfill the original promise of Ethereum, as a platform where smart contracts are free from third-party interference. ETC prioritizes trust-minimization, network security, and integrity. All network upgrades are non-contentious with the aim to fix critical issues or to add value with newly proposed features; never to create new tokens, or to bail out flawed smart contracts and their interest groups.

Encouraging mining of the first few big blocks with OP_CSV and BIP68 | jl2012 at xbt.hk | Aug 23 2015 /r/bitcoin_devlist

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Encouraging mining of the first few big blocks with OP_CSV and BIP68 | jl2012 at xbt.hk | Aug 23 2015 /r/bitcoin_devlist

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Chinese Tinder Forex Scam

I have matched up with at least 9 gorgeous Chinese women from Hong Kong or Singapore who seem to follow a similar pattern, so I think this must be a scam. I wasn’t foolish enough to go all the way through with this to verify, but I figured someone else has and can validate my suspicions.
  1. Chinese girl matches with you - not in your geographic area
  2. Chinese girl is always young, beautiful, and wealthy (lifestyle includes golfing, high fashion brands, expensive resorts in photos)
  3. Chinese girl asks you for your WhatsApp almost immediately; she sends messages daily and even throws in some cute videos or pics to bait you. She may occasionally actually call you for a brief moment (to make you think it is a real woman but I suspect there is one girl calling hundreds of guys for a minute per guy)
  4. She asks you about your profession or business if you have one and says she does something very similar (to build trust and affinity)
  5. She casually brings up Forex trading and says she makes lots of money trading Bitcoin - USD or some other variation on forex
  6. She tells you to try it, that she will teach you how or even offers to introduce you to her teacher She will send you screen shots of her earnings (one woman sent me a screen shot showing she made $75,000 on a trade)
  7. Once you agree and download MetaTrader 4 as instructed (even though there is a Version 5 out), she directs you on when to execute sample trades (usually late at night during HK or Singapore opening hours)
  8. After you do several simulations (mine generated up to $14,000 per trade in profit), she asks how much you will invest in real money. She or her teacher suggest you start with $50,000 USD or more.
  9. If you prove useless or say you are not interested, she will stop contacting you.
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AMA Announcement: Join Lennix Lai, the Director of Financial Markets of OKEx - a leading spot and derivatives cryptocurrency exchange. He will be taking your questions on June 16, 2020 at 10AM EST on /r/btc

Hello all, we have an interesting Ask Me Anything (AMA) coming up with OKEx which is one of the biggest and well-known cryptocurrency exchanges in the world. Currently, OKEx provides hundreds of token and futures trading pairs to help traders to optimize their strategy. It’s also one of the top digital asset exchanges by trading volume, serving millions of users in over 100 countries. According to CryptoCompare, OKEx topped derivatives market multiple times in trading volumes.
Ask Lennix anything about Bitcoin/Bitcoin Cash trading and mining experience, crypto spot and derivatives products, trading strategies or whatever crypto topic you want to address next week in his first AMA which he chose to have here on /btc.
Save the date - June 16, 2020 at 10AM EST and in local time zones:
Please ask any questions you have for the AMA below or you can ask them live during the event next week in the AMA thread when it gets posted. If you don’t know who Lennix is, you can read more about him in his bio below. Thanks.
Lennix Lai bio:
Lennix has over a decade of experience in the financial industry, specialized on high-frequency trading, DMA (Direct Market Access), asset management, front-to-back trading operation, risk management, and compliance. Now he plays a key role in product development, enhancing customer experience, and improving the platform of OKEx.
Before joining OKEx, Lennix served in JP Morgan and AIG and was the Responsible Officer of CASH Financial Services Group (00510.HK) who held full accountability on supervising regulatory activities defined by SFC. He managed a team of DMA specialists servicing global hedge funds, HFT, and quantitative CTAs, while also handling the relationship with major global exchanges.
You can check out Lennix's Twitter profile here: https://twitter.com/LennixOkex
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Bitcoin Will Never Ditch You Ad Tells HKs Apple Daily Readers (current BTC/USD price is $11,771.61)

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The attempted come back of CoinEx, China's forked-Bitcoin exchange

The attempted come back of CoinEx, China's forked-Bitcoin exchange
Written by Shuyao Kong
Published by decrypt.co
An interview with Haipo Yang, a crypto OG who’s trying to reposition his Bitcoin Cash-based CoinEx exchange. And more, in this week’s da bing.
Haipo Yang, founder of ViaBTC, one of the largest mining pools in the world, and CoinEx, a crypto exchange known for its focus on Bitcoin Cash-based trading, is a well-known but relatively quiet character in China’s crypto circle. Typically, Yang doesn’t talk that much about his journey launching the mining pool, nor about CoinEx, which launched in December 2017.
And he almost never speaks about his fervent support for BCH, a hard fork of Bitcoin, and his now even more enthusiastic belief in BSV.
Yet that’s changing of late. Yang has been more active in recent months, participating in interviews about CoinEx and tweeting more frequently on Weibo, China’s Twitter. He’s been making controversial statements predicting the death of BTC, while supporting BCH and BSV on social media.
Recently, Yang told me that as a developer rather than a business person, he’s never been comfortable speaking in public. However he’s making an effort now to help publicize his renovation of CoinEx. So, for this week’s da bing, I decided to chat with him and get a peek into the mind of a veteran crypto entrepreneur who’s trying to make a personal, as well as a platform, comeback.

CoinEx’s golden opportunity

The first hard fork of Bitcoin occurred in August, 2017 and created a new cryptocurrency called Bitcoin Cash. The fork was prompted by partisans, including Yang, who wanted bigger block sizes on the blockchain — the basic idea was that bigger blocks would enable more transactions per second and make Bitcoin Cash something people would actually use to buy things, rather than Bitcoin’s more commonly perceived use as a store of value.
Yang added a tremendous amount of value to the mining scene in China. As a technical founder with has years of experience in big tech firms such as Tencent, Yang is proud of his #buidl skills. He developed most of the code in the early days of VicBTC, which became one of the biggest mining pools to this day.
Not satisfied with owning just a mining pool,Yang conceived of CoinEx, which was born in December of that year, specifically to carry on the mission of the newly forked Bitcoin Cash blockchain. As he got swept up in Bitcoin Cash enthusiasm, he even said that “BCH is bitcoin.”
CoinEx’s strategy was BCH-focused from day one; BCH was its base currency, meaning you could use it to buy and sell other currencies, such as Ethereum and Litecoin.
Interestingly, Jihan Wu, the co-founder of Bitcoin Exchange — himself a famous BCH supporter — was a big investor in the exchange. That made me wonder why he, Yang, and many other OG crypto miners, were so passionate about BCH. Was it just about bigger block sizes?
“Bigger block size means more users and use cases,” Yang explained. The move to bigger block sizes was attractive to miners because they would facilitate more transactions. Miners make money on transaction fees, as well as mining blocks. Likewise, the network would arguably be more useful to people, who were looking for digital cash for every day use.
That especially resonated with many early hardcore Bitcoiners. Said Yang: “We really believe that Bitcoin should be a P2P cash vehicle rather than a store of value.”
This view probably sounds outdated to people who believe that Bitcoin’s value as cash is long gone, with solutions such as Lightning Network fulfilling that role. Instead, the new narrative for Bitcoin resides in its value, rather than utility. Yet Yang believed that the forked network would create far more opportunity
“We could invite influential companies to establish nodes and contribute to the network. This cannot be done with the original Bitcoin architecture,” he said.

CoinEx pivots

But from its inception, CoinEx struggled with adoption and was dwarfed by the bigger exchanges. Part of that had to do with the fact that BCH and “Bitcoin Satoshi’s Vision,” another Bitcoin hard fork, were both controversial. Critics pointed out that these networks are centralized in a few big mining pools, and 51% attacks are not out of the question.
So over time, though Yang’s exchange still maintains strong support for BCH and BSV, it began to add support for all the major currencies.
Finally, in January of this year, it announced a major upgrade, of… well, just about everything. It started to offer futures trading, leveraged trading, options trading, and over 100 token projects available to traders. It even rolled out its own blockchain, “CoinEx Chain” to support a new DEX, “CoinEx DEX.”
The seemingly sudden publicity of CoinEx should not come as a surprise, then. As BCH/BSV was being marginalized, Yang shifted his focus. He’s now trying to ride the wave of building a bigger, more dynamic exchange.
“Crypto exchanges are where value is discovered,” Yang told me.

CoinEx: TNG

Building an exchange isn’t done overnight, nor is re-building one. CoinEx is still competing with the giants such as Binance.
However Yang thinks his exchange will thrive by zigging when his competitors zag. As usual, CoinEx is taking a slightly different route, he told me.
Like what? “We will be listing 小币种,” he said, using the expression for “small token projects.” I cannot help but wonder if these “small token projects” are simply shitcoins, the trading of which is certainly not new.
Indeed, Yang said that he’s banking on the success of his new, public blockchain. “We are building a CoinEx Chain, a layer one protocol for DEX alone. Using our public blockchain, anyone can issue any token, at any time,” he said. He described the blockchain as “a real decentralized, token-issuance and transaction platform.”
This is the core of Yang’s plan and vision. He believes that centralized exchanges will be a bottleneck for crypto adoption because it contradicts crypto’s nature as a completely free and open infrastructure. Essentially anyone should be able to launch a token and trade it with anyone. Only by building DEXes can we achieve full decentralization, he says.

The Religious nature of Bitcoin, and forked Bitcoin

It’s his belief that Bitcoin should adhere to Satoshi’s original vision that led Yang to send yet another controversial tweet last week, which I will translate: “The early days of Bitcoin expansion are similar to religion. The religious fervor brings prosperity to the industry.”
By extension, Yang believes that the next generation of Bitcoin should provoke a similar “religious” fervor. That’s why he has slowly become more of a BSV advocate than a fan of Bitcoin Cash. Yang believes that “BSV has more religious connotations, despite its negative image.” (As most crypto people know, the controversial Craig Wright, who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, led the hard fork which created BSV. Consequently it is often met with skepticism and derision.)
“The early days of Bitcoin expansion are similar to religion,” said Yang. “The religious fervor brings prosperity to the industry.”
Crypto is famous for its tribalism. Many people choose one camp over another not for practical reasons but because of simple faith. Talking to Yang and reading his tweet brings a historic texture to the Bitcoin narrative. But crypto cannot survive on religion alone. One has to build. Hash might have been worshipped in the old days but now the crypto religion is all about the size of the congregation.
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Police arrest three after six Hong Kong bitcoin ATMs pilfered for HK$230000 in first-of-its-kind ... (current BTC/USD price is $11,785.89)

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For me one thing has changed: A HK-based company will be now in charge of 12.5% of all mined coins. What do we do when chinese government (inevitably) starts to control it? How about a smart contract instead?

Miners were always in charge of Bitcoin - so that thing has not changed. But what changed is this:
Wouldn't a clear and public smart contract work better instead of a HK corporation? At least we would know how much funds go to what developer.
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Compiled list of BCH Miner Dev Fund posts, articles, discussions

The BCH Miner Dev Fund has proven to be a huge topic in this community over the past week. There has been tons of discussions on it. Here is an attempt to compile some of the more relevant posts and discussions over the past several days into one post for reference. Obviously some of this will be overlapping and I know I will miss some posts so if I missed something major, just link to it in the comments so I can update this list. These are in no particular order.
Original proposal
Archived link
Reddit post
Mega Thread
Mega Thread with compiled posts up to that point
Bitcoin.com's Clarifications on the Miner Development Fund
Bitcoin.com Update on Developer Funding
Amaury Sechet: On the infrastructure funding plan for Bitcoin Cash
Assessment and proposal re: the Bitcoin Cash infrastructure funding situation
Fyookball: Little Known (But Important!) Facts About the Mining Plan
Mengerian: My View on the Miner Infrastructure Funding Plan
The Best Of Intentions: The Dev Tax Is Intended to Benefit Investors But Will Corrupt Us Instead
Bitcoin Unlimited's BUIP 143: Refuse the Coinbase Tax
We are a group of miners opposing the BTC.TOP proposal, here's why
We are a group of miners opposing the BTC.TOP proposal, and we have an update on our earlier post
Bitcoin Verde's Response to the Miner Sponsored Development Fund
Zander: Mythbusting: We need a developer-fund
Vitalik: BCH, a chain that was born as a reaction to an ideology that claims that soft forks are the only legitimate way to make changes because they are "voluntary" is.... making a controversial soft fork and insinuating that it's voluntary"
I don’t agree with the statement in the AMA that developers will set the agenda.
The consensus mechanism is fine, the proposal needs improvement
Vin Armani: "My intuition is that not only will this cartel initiative go as planned, but that it will result in solid price gains for BCH and go down as one of the most important innovations in Bitcoin. Voluntary, time-constrained, free market solution to one of Bitcoin's greatest problems."
Sploit: On This Mess
Pokkst: BCH Dev Fund: My Thoughts
Emin Gun Sirer on the funding plan
For me one thing has changed: A HK-based company will be now in charge of 12.5% of all mined coins. What do we do when chinese government (inevitably) starts to control it? How about a smart contract instead?
The community deserves a formal withdraw of the proposed changes by the signatories. The hashwar and split from the proposed change will harm Bitcoin Cash more than the benefits it proposes to give.
The Bitcoin Cash 12.5% Developer Fund Will Lower BCH Network Security as Hashrate Will Leave
Some thoughts & questions on Jiang Zhuo'er's miner funding announcement
Calling it tax is okay
I am a BCH miner and I propose a white list of predefined dev funding addresses that will be updated every 6 months
7 Impolite Thoughts on the Developer Fund
Risk For Bitcoin Cash = Up
Alternative Infrastructure Funding Plan Proposal
Removing centralisation from the dev funding proposal
An open, neutral, borderless cash protocol should not have a privileged account that gives a central entity the ability to extract money from the protocol. [Read]
"What happens if the powerful miners decide to increase the 21 million limit?"
Miners that don't donate would incur a 12.5% handicap
Remind me again why a simple transparent Crowdfunding contribution address run by a few parties who are regularly audited wouldn’t solve the dev funding problem in a decentralized manner overnight? I would contribute monthly.
BCH Dev Fund: Why Not Crowdfund?
Here is the absolute right way to fund developers
Why not keep things simple and just use a multisig address?
They say the miners' tax will be given to the "good guys."
From a BCH security perspective, users are far more important than hashpower. If BCH is still only doing 0.3 TPS ten years from now, BCH will be worth a very tiny fraction of today's $330 price. The Dev Fund has many obvious concerns, but so does doing nothing.
Chris Pacia: The 253rd "Thoughts on developer funding" Article
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Namecoin and the future of self-sovereign digital identity.

Namecoin's motto is "Bitcoin frees money – Namecoin frees DNS, identities, and other technologies."
biolizard89 has done fantastic work on the DNS part, but let's focus on the identity use case here. Recent events have convinced me that digital identity on the internet is broken. Consider:
What was true in 1993 when cartoonist Peter Steiner wrote "On the internet, nobody knows you are a dog" is still true today. The only difference is that identity is increasingly being weaponized using AI/ML so "On the internet, nobody knows you are a bot" would perhaps be more apt.
I read the following comment from a user on slashdot yesterday:
For the time being, you can assume that this comment was written by a human being. You can click on my username, look back at my history of posts, and go, "OK, here's a bunch of posts, by a person, going back more than a decade, to the TIME BEFORE BOTS." That is, before the first year of 2020.
Since humans are likely to adopt the majority opinion, bad actors find real value in being able to control the narrative online by surrounding the reader with manufactured opinions by bots that due to advances in ML/AI are quickly becoming indistinguishable from real users. This amounts to a Sybil attack on the minds of digital content consumers and poses major threat to the integrity of our social fabric.
Apart from the recent twitter incident used for scamming, nation states have been known to create massive bot armies of fake and hijacked user accounts to try and shift the narratives regarding the Hong Kong independence protests as well as national elections. This will only increase.
Currently, our digital identity is fragmented into silo's largely controlled by government institutions and mega corporations (FAANG) based on a "Trust us" model. As recent events have proven, this is a bad model and in dire need of improvement/replacement. IMHO we need to move from "Trust us" to a "Trust but verify" model where the user is in full control of their digital identity.
Namecoin can and should play an important role in building this 'web of trust composed of self-sovereign identities" as it is neutral (no owner), permissionless and secure (merge-mined). Daniel already developed a proof of concept with NameID but what can we do to take this further?
Personally I'd like to see users create Namecoin identities and link them to their social identities (e.g. Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc). Then whenever they create content, they sign it with their private keys. This would allow a reader to verify the content was created by the user. Content verification would have stopped the recent twitter hack, because even if the hackers would have access to internal admin tools they would not have the private keys that the users produce valid content with. "Not your keys, not your content"
Content verification is only one part. Ideally a user would like to verify the integrity of the content creator as well. E.g. has this user passed human verification in any of the linked platforms? Does a trusted linked entity vouch for the reputation or integrity of this user (e.g. a government entity, financial entity or non-governmental organization?). This would require those platforms to allow linking of Namecoin ID with their Platform ID and allow lookup and signing of metadata provided by these platforms. (e.g. UserID Y is linked to PlatformID X and completed human verification on date Z, signed Twitter).
I image users could install an extension similar to uBlock or Privacy Badger that contains human curated blacklists and heuristics that operate on Namecoin entities to perform these checks and flag or filter content and users that fail integrity checks. This would allow a users to automatically weed out potential bots and trolls but keep full control of this process themselves, avoiding potential censorship if this task would fall on the platform owners themselves (something governments are pushing for).
We could take this even further and integrate Namecoin ID's in software and hardware devices as well. This could create chains of trust to verify the entire chain of content creation and manipulation to the final content posted on a social platform. Where every entity signs the resulting content. (E.g. camera -> photoshop -> twitter post)
Apart from signing content/messages (PGP style). Namecoin could perhaps also be used for managing identity tokens in a users 'Identity wallet'. Looking into my physical wallet this could include things like credit cards, insurance cards, government issued IDs, membership cards, transportation cards, key cards, etc. This could be done similar to 'colored coins' on Bitcoin. But would have to support some type of smart contract functionality to be useful (e.g. expiring tokens, etc).
I'm not a developer nor a technical writer, but I do think we need to think long and hard about how we can solve digital identity in a way that empowers users to trust and verify the content and identities of the peers we interact with online while also respecting privacy and preventing censorship by external parties. Namecoin could be the better path to building this web of trust, but given the current pace of AI/ML and the willingness by bad actors to weaponize it at scale against users interests we might not have much time. (Apologies for the rant!)
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36mm Ballon Bleu de Cartier Ronda Quartz w/White MOP Dial (V6 Factory) from Chazingtime

Hi Everyone! I'm so excited to post what everyone needs right now (j/k) : A watch review, and a very nice one at that!
I've been on a serious Cartier jewelry kick for the past year or so and I've fallen in love with the Ballon Bleu. This is my second rep watch purchase (the first being a 31 mm Rolex DateJust w/a 2816 movement in 2015 that's still going great). Unfortunately I was a bit thirsty and being cheap during a DH Gate binge that I purchased what I thought was a decent one in December via DHL and got a complete shitter for $93! I took pics of it and immediately shipped it back via USPS Priority Mail International ($31) for a full refund ($126), which I received two weeks later.
I totally forgot that I'm a longtime member of RWI and realized that I could have gotten a much better watch for only $100 more. I checked the Trusted Dealers (TD) list and saw that Chazingtime and PureTime had the watch I wanted, a Ronda Quartz, because I didn't want to get it serviced like my DateJust rep. I chose 36 mm size because I'm tall and wanted something bigger than my Rolex.
It was a LONG and arduous process, but I'm glad to finally have it.
Seller: Chazingtime
Item: Ballon Bleu de Cartier watch, 36mm stainless steel bracelet with white mother-of-pearl (MOP) dial from V6 Factory.
Price: $198 USD.
Payment Method Used: Bank Wire. TD also accepts PayPal for established customers and WU.
Price of Shipping: $35 to the USA.
Order Timeline (I'm having a near-anxiety flashback just thinking about this):
Seller Communication and Service-10/10
I tried to use PP but Ken immediately messaged to apologize and tell me that he only accepts it from established customers who have bought several watches from him. He gave me a really nice discount to use WU. I attempted to use it, but discovered that I'm banned from WU for some inexplicable reason (but I think it's because I have a federal security clearance for work, but I really believe that I've bought so many rep bags, hair extensions, and jewelry over the past dozen years that I got myself flagged). *face palm*
I then messaged him to tell him that I was banned from using WU, so he immediately replied with his SWIFT code to have a wire transfer initiated, again with a nice discount for my trouble.
I love how Ken was sooo responsive to my messages. I emailed him at 2:15 am EST and he replied immediately with the QC photos even though he was swamped with fulfilling new and established orders after the holiday and factory shutdown. I'd most definitely purchase from him again.
Quality - 10/10
The watch is pretty well made. The Sapphire crystal glass is thick and is literally scratch proof. The blue cabochon crown is correct, easy to pull out and set the time, and the loop that surrounds it does not gap like other reps I've seen. The dial markings are clear, the CARTIER font is properly inked and spaced and, since it's quartz movement, there's no winding needed. I was really confused about the bracelet clasp; I had to watch YT videos until I got the hang of it!
Accuracy - 10/10
This watch is EVERYTHING! It came fully branded and tagged, has a nice "heft" to it, and looks incredible. It has the exact markings as the authentic, and I wouldn't hesitate to wear it in a Cartier store. Unfortunately, there aren't many auth white MOP dials to compare this one to; however, I've seen a lot of pink MOP dials on Google. I actually prefer the pink MOP but the RWI guys say that the pink MOP reps aren't 100% to the authentic and are calloutable by those who know Cartier. I think the white MOP is called silver opaline, but I'm not 100% sure of it and I love this version. I've even scanned the QC and barcode that were attached to the bracelet and they took me to the leather band version on the Cartier website!
Satisfaction - 10/10
Aside from waiting nearly two months for it, I'm beyond satisfied with this gem. I've also not taken it off; I've even showered and slept in i! I'm home-bound due to my workplace shutting down, so I've got to wear it somewhere!
I could have easily have worn it as a dangle, but decided not to because of the dial size and weight; I didn't want to scratch or ding it. I took it to my non-judgmental (because he and his sons repair my rep Rolex without judgment) nonagenarian watchmaker in town and he removed one link and chided me to hold on to that link and charged me only $10. It now fits pretty snug on my 7.5 inch wrist but I actually prefer it this way. (I can fit one finger under the bracelet, so it's not too tight.)
Lessons Learned: I know that I would have had a much better experience had I planned my purchase sooner and not wasted time with DH Gate. I also would have received my watch within the week had I been able to use WU or PP. The entire bank wire process really wore me out and extended the processing time. I learned from RWI and RepTime that some of the TDs' credit card processing software is prone to hacking and that Bitcoin or using TransferWise or Xoom are safer options for TDs who won't accept PP.
Anyway, enjoy and let me know if you have any questions. 11/10 will recommend! :)
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Hot Take: BCH Funding Proposal is a tempest in a teapot.

People's knee jerk reaction to things, especially in the crypto space, tends to be fear and rejection, and this is no different.
Taking away the issue of orphaning miners that don't play along, I don't think anyone seems to have an issue with this proposal. As far as I can tell objections break down into two parts -
1) 5 mining pools are forcing other mining pools to go along with their plan.
This is how bitcoin works people. This is how it was designed. If you don't like this, you don't like bitcoin (which is fine, btw) but arguing that this is somehow not in the spirit of Bitcoin is totally wrong. 51% of the miners can do whatever they want, and the other 49% can fork off if they don't like it. This is how it's worked from day 1. This is the bitcoin we've all been living with for ten years. We tried building consensus, setting a "threshold" etc. It doesn't work. If you want to make a change you need to build consensus yourself and just do it, because every other path leads to stagnation. It's the only way that change has ever happened in this space. You can't wait for everyone to agree, it's never going to happen. I strongly support their decision to lead by example.
2) Miners that play along won't have a say how their 12.5% will be distributed.
I have some sympathies for this - Nobody wants to be told how to spend their own money. I agree that one sentence about a holding company in HK is not enough info for most people. I would caution patience. My only thought on this is that there should be some kind of democratic representation among those miners that contribute, but I see no reason why this won't happen. If I mine 1% of the blocks, I'd like a proportional vote on how the funds are distributed. Until we know this isn't happening I'm not going to lose my marbles over it.
3) People don't like any idea that isn't theirs.
There seem to be a lot of curmudgeons that think they deserve a say despite contributing nothing of substance. I don't know what to say about this vocal majority except that they contribute nothing of substance, and their opinions should be given little weight because their opinion doesn't matter to begin with, and is likely to change based on the last twitter rant they read.
Basically, I think this is going to be a good thing for BCH, I think making BTC pay for it is very clever, and as long as all the miners have a voice regarding how funds are distributed I don't think there's anything to lose sleep over here.
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Some hints and tips for newer players

This wipe I have progressed more than I have in past wipes, and I think a lot of it has to do with my play-style changing.
I know I am still nowhere near as stacked stash wish or stats wise than a lot of players, but thought I might share some hints and tips for new players that have been helpful for me.
I play mainly duos, sometimes trios with a couple of mates. My play style is relatively quiet (i.e. little sprinting, lots of pausing walking to listen) until I engage the enemy, then as much aggressive flanking and pushing as possible.
So you can see where I currently am this wipe my stash and play stats are here (it's zoomable). TLDR - 41% Survival rate, 120mil stash value, 5.77 KDR.
So onto the tips:
1) Optimise what you bring out of raids:
2) Run. Good. Ammo
3) Keep what you loot in raid
4) Run gear appropriate to your stash
5) Make the most of your hideout
6) Once you have engaged an enemy play aggressively
7) Sound is your friend
8) When poor, scav in
9) Complete quests
10) Don't be afraid to use gear
11) Play with others
I hope these tips help at least one person! Happy to expand on any of them if anyone has questions....
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Due to popular shill narratives claiming censorship, I did my own independent investigation, took 6+ hours. Here are the results:

I did an independent investigation to find if there is any censorship in this sub.
Interpretation: No censorship, mods are doing great job, mods are humans and can make a mistake sometimes due to too much work.
Due to multiple claims of censorship in this sub with supplied links, made by shilling accounts, I became interested in finding out the truth for myself.
So I did an independent investigation of all of the popular claims of censorship, amassed together by shills in this topic: https://np.reddit.com/bitcoincashSV/comments/cdvilb/they_claim_that_cryptorebel_is_the_only_one_that/ [Archive]
I used mod logs provided here and Reddit Enhancement Suite to go back in time and verify all claims made, one after one. Took me 6+ Hours.
btcnewsupdates: Completely justified ban. Spam while trying to push narrative. Breaking the rules of subreddit (multiple duplicates). Proof:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a14kds/the_resolution_of_the_bitcoin_cash_experiment_a/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a0vc9j/the_resolution_of_the_bitcoin_cash_experiment/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9z2302/bababc_devs_running_amok_implementing_changes/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9z28pz/how_to_spot_incompetent_devs_they_dont_know_thei [Archive]
SaltyBitcoinSV: Lying about being banned, he is not banned at all. Or maybe he was somehow banned by reddit.com itself (which won't be visible in modlogs).
kostialevin: Apparently an unjustified ban, but not sure if actually censorship - looks more like mod mistake.
CityBusDriverBitcoin: Abusive and aggressive multiple times towards other users, other than (obviously) saying "fuck you" to jessquit. For example, here:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/c6doyf/satoshi_nakamoto/es80zz6/?context=10000 [Archive]
Ban 120% justified.
010010001100011010: Copletely justified ban for spam, plenty of proof:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a01klb/echo_echo/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9x392l/dr_plagius_now_threatens_btc_miners_with_an/e9pgc4w/?context=3 [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9x392l/dr_plagius_now_threatens_btc_miners_with_an/e9pgdi1/?context=3 [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wq5wq/warning_to_craig_and_all_the_mining_pools/e9mg5g8/?context=3 [Archive]
SadisticMetal: Racist, "MARK MY WORDS YOU STINKY INDIAN.". BTW, being racist breaks site-wide Reddit TOS AFAIK.
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a0fr5j/web_simulator_for_my_antireorg_algorithm/eahuv2g/ [Archive]
MCStravinsky: Spam, also Breaking reddit TOS[unable to verify TOS breaking, because links are deleted]
Proof of duplicates:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9y9s2q/the_odd_timing_of_coindance_annoucement_of_bchabc/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9y8ut4/the_strange_timing_of_coindance_announcement_of/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9y4z00/the_timing_oddness_of_the_coindance_message/ [Archive]
bigjuicycrypto: Unable to verify. Content missing, because of breaking reddit TOS [allegedly].
(User deleted his account): Unable to verify if claims are real or not.
Source: https://old.reddit.com/bitcoincashSV/comments/a3wpdm/banned_from_rbtc_for_my_updown_votes_is_thei [Archive]
boredaf7677709877: Banned for spam, but this is slight mod mistake IMO. Actually should be banned for "blatant mod abuse" (Roger Ver is a Mod). Saying "fuck roger" multiple times in a row, calling Roger Ver (one of the mods) Hitler with no proof whatsoever multiple times. I guess spam kind of fits as well after all...
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wwoe7/roger_wake_up/e9nvdy0/?context=3 [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wwoe7/roger_wake_up/e9nwbe8/?context=3 [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wz29o/to_all_those_who_labeled_me_as_public_enemy_shame/e9obx2g/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wq5wq/warning_to_craig_and_all_the_mining_pools/e9mf8df/ [Archive]
RogueSploit: Ban for flooding seems valid - I checked other subreddits and it seems to be a common thing. I was not aware of 1 post per 10 minutes posting limitation though (where is this rule written?). It would be more fair if the ban should be temporary even though the user is a BSV shill.
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9z62wb/the_devolution_of_roger_ve [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9z630z/abcs_actions_prove_that_they_wanted_a_split_from/ [Archive]
JoelDalais: Ban for being abusive, 120% justified.
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/c12em9/the_truth_will_set_you_free_or_fret_profit_by/eraj9g9/?context=3 [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/c12em9/the_truth_will_set_you_free_or_fret_profit_by/eragb4w/?context=3 [Archive]
peter_u1: Duplicates/Spam while trying to push narrative, ban fully justified. Also obvious forced duplicate ads of another coin, proof:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/aco7pa/bsv_mined_a_104mb_block_world_record/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/aci6a6/bsv_mined_a_104mb_block_world_record_bch_is/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a5kd2x/gabriel_cardona_bitcoincash_is_the_single_most/ebnecpl/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a49wtw/buy_bsv/ [Archive]
Ban 120% justified.
NOT_SURE: Duplicates/Spam while trying to push narrative. Multiple times. Ban 120% justified. Proof:
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a3qzpy/wake_up_bch_community_you_have_been_misguided_i/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/a3tlzc/roger_and_jihan_you_failed_admit_it_now_and_let/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wwoe7/roger_wake_up/ [Archive]
https://old.reddit.com/btc/comments/9wuxj4/roger_it_is_not_too_late_to_admit_that_you_made_a/ [Archive]
All of the (justly or unjustly) banned users were shills (mostly SV shills). I have reviewed them myself on different occasions and they all were on my RES-tag shill list.
When you are a dishonest shill, you have to tread carefully, because mods will use any excuse to ban you. And I cannot blame the mods, to be honest. Shills are annoying people who are being massively downvoted on this sub - meaning they are not wanted by the populace of this sub. Yet they somehow persist and lower the quality of our lives every day.
If I was a mod, I would ban them too, on the first occasion the sub rules would allow me to.
However, shills still deserve free speech as /btc is a free speech subreddit above all, so as long as they play by the rules of the sub, they should get it.
I do not like to play devil's advocate, but I would encourage mods to unban this one unjustly banned shill (probably by mistake). I don't think it will hurt.
Fixed 1 link.
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Is the maxed BitCoin farm + Solar Power OP...?

As much as I love the way it prints money now that I have it maxed out, it seems like the Hideout is really OP with Bitcoin Mining and Solar Power. Now that I've maxed both, my hideout is producing a bitcoin every five hours. At an average price of 120K Rubles per, that means that my hideout is generating 4,032,000 Rubles per week (7 days * 24 hours / 5 hours per coin * 120,000 Rubles per coin) with minimal cost in fuel (I just need to find or buy a 5L can every once in a while). Given that I'm a cautious, casual player (i.e. mediocre), I'm now sitting on a full stash of pimped M4s and HKs and over 14M Rubles in cash. This does not even take into account profit I'm making by producing Moonshine and Mag Boxes to sell. While this seems like a high quality problem, I really like the challenge of Tarkov, and it seems like I should have to work harder to stay supplied in gear, weapons, and ammo. Part of the reason I keep doing Scav runs is that I enjoy the thrill of a successful raid with minimal gear as much or more than going in with a min recoil / max ergo M4 complete with a thermal together with Class 5 armor and massacring new players on Customs at night (even though my last three kills were all players over level 38).
The counterpoint is that if the wipe had not occurred just before the holidays (which enabled me to put a ridiculous number of hours into the game - much to my wife's chagrine), it would have taken me far longer to max out my Hideout...
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Transcript of discussion between an ASIC designer and several proof-of-work designers from #monero-pow channel on Freenode this morning

[08:07:01] lukminer contains precompiled cn/r math sequences for some blocks: https://lukminer.org/2019/03/09/oh-kay-v4r-here-we-come/
[08:07:11] try that with RandomX :P
[08:09:00] tevador: are you ready for some RandomX feedback? it looks like the CNv4 is slowly stabilizing, hashrate comes down...
[08:09:07] how does it even make sense to precompile it?
[08:09:14] mine 1% faster for 2 minutes?
[08:09:35] naturally we think the entire asic-resistance strategy is doomed to fail :) but that's a high-level thing, who knows. people may think it's great.
[08:09:49] about RandomX: looks like the cache size was chosen to make it GPU-hard
[08:09:56] looking forward to more docs
[08:11:38] after initial skimming, I would think it's possible to make a 10x asic for RandomX. But at least for us, we will only make an ASIC if there is not a total ASIC hostility there in the first place. That's better for the secret miners then.
[08:13:12] What I propose is this: we are working on an Ethash ASIC right now, and once we have that working, we would invite tevador or whoever wants to come to HK/Shenzhen and we walk you guys through how we would make a RandomX ASIC. You can then process this input in any way you like. Something like that.
[08:13:49] unless asics (or other accelerators) re-emerge on XMR faster than expected, it looks like there is a little bit of time before RandomX rollout
[08:14:22] 10x in what measure? $/hash or watt/hash?
[08:14:46] watt/hash
[08:15:19] so you can make 10 times more efficient double precisio FPU?
[08:16:02] like I said let's try to be productive. You are having me here, let's work together!
[08:16:15] continue with RandomX, publish more docs. that's always helpful.
[08:16:37] I'm trying to understand how it's possible at all. Why AMD/Intel are so inefficient at running FP calculations?
[08:18:05] midipoet ([email protected]/web/irccloud.com/x-vszshqqxwybvtsjm) has joined #monero-pow
[08:18:17] hardware development works the other way round. We start with 1) math then 2) optimization priority 3) hw/sw boundary 4) IP selection 5) physical implementation
[08:22:32] This still doesn't explain at which point you get 10x
[08:23:07] Weren't you the ones claiming "We can accelerate ProgPoW by a factor of 3x to 8x." ? I find it hard to believe too.
[08:30:20] sure
[08:30:26] so my idea: first we finish our current chip
[08:30:35] from simulation to silicon :)
[08:30:40] we love this stuff... we do it anyway
[08:30:59] now we have a communication channel, and we don't call each other names immediately anymore: big progress!
[08:31:06] you know, we russians have a saying "it was smooth on paper, but they forgot about ravines"
[08:31:12] So I need a bit more details
[08:31:16] ha ha. good!
[08:31:31] that's why I want to avoid to just make claims
[08:31:34] let's work
[08:31:40] RandomX comes in Sep/Oct, right?
[08:31:45] Maybe
[08:32:20] We need to audit it first
[08:32:31] ok
[08:32:59] we don't make chips to prove sw devs that their assumptions about hardware are wrong. especially not if these guys then promptly hardfork and move to the next wrong assumption :)
[08:33:10] from the outside, this only means that hw & sw are devaluing each other
[08:33:24] neither of us should do this
[08:33:47] we are making chips that can hopefully accelerate more crypto ops in the future
[08:33:52] signing, verifying, proving, etc.
[08:34:02] PoW is just a feature like others
[08:34:18] sech1: is it easy for you to come to Hong Kong? (visa-wise)
[08:34:20] or difficult?
[08:34:33] or are you there sometimes?
[08:34:41] It's kind of far away
[08:35:13] we are looking forward to more RandomX docs. that's the first step.
[08:35:31] I want to avoid that we have some meme "Linzhi says they can accelerate XYZ by factor x" .... "ha ha ha"
[08:35:37] right? we don't want that :)
[08:35:39] doc is almost finished
[08:35:40] What docs do you need? It's described pretty good
[08:35:41] so I better say nothing now
[08:35:50] we focus on our Ethash chip
[08:36:05] then based on that, we are happy to walk interested people through the design and what else it can do
[08:36:22] that's a better approach from my view than making claims that are laughed away (rightfully so, because no silicon...)
[08:36:37] ethash ASIC is basically a glorified memory controller
[08:36:39] sech1: tevador said something more is coming (he just did it again)
[08:37:03] yes, some parts of RandomX are not described well
[08:37:10] like dataset access logic
[08:37:37] RandomX looks like progpow for CPU
[08:37:54] yes
[08:38:03] it is designed to reflect CPU
[08:38:34] so any ASIC for it = CPU in essence
[08:39:04] of course there are still some things in regular CPU that can be thrown away for RandomX
[08:40:20] uncore parts are not used, but those will use very little power
[08:40:37] except for memory controller
[08:41:09] I'm just surprised sometimes, ok? let me ask: have you designed or taped out an asic before? isn't it risky to make assumptions about things that are largely unknown?
[08:41:23] I would worry
[08:41:31] that I get something wrong...
[08:41:44] but I also worry like crazy that CNv4 will blow up, where you guys seem to be relaxed
[08:42:06] I didn't want to bring up anything RandomX because CNv4 is such a nailbiter... :)
[08:42:15] how do you guys know you don't have asics in a week or two?
[08:42:38] we don't have experience with ASIC design, but RandomX is simply designed to exactly fit CPU capabilities, which is the best you can do anyways
[08:43:09] similar as ProgPoW did with GPUs
[08:43:14] some people say they want to do asic-resistance only until the vast majority of coins has been issued
[08:43:21] that's at least reasonable
[08:43:43] yeah but progpow totally will not work as advertised :)
[08:44:08] yeah, I've seen that comment about progpow a few times already
[08:44:11] which is no surprise if you know it's just a random sales story to sell a few more GPUs
[08:44:13] RandomX is not permanent, we are expecting to switch to ASIC friendly in a few years if possible
[08:44:18] yes
[08:44:21] that makes sense
[08:44:40] linzhi-sonia: how so? will it break or will it be asic-able with decent performance gains?
[08:44:41] are you happy with CNv4 so far?
[08:45:10] ah, long story. progpow is a masterpiece of deception, let's not get into it here.
[08:45:21] if you know chip marketing it makes more sense
[08:45:24] linzhi-sonia: So far? lol! a bit early to tell, don't you think?
[08:45:35] the diff is coming down
[08:45:41] first few hours looked scary
[08:45:43] I remain skeptical: I only see ASICs being reasonable if they are already as ubiquitous as smartphones
[08:45:46] yes, so far so good
[08:46:01] we kbew the diff would not come down ubtil affter block 75
[08:46:10] yes
[08:46:22] but first few hours it looks like only 5% hashrate left
[08:46:27] looked
[08:46:29] now it's better
[08:46:51] the next worry is: when will "unexplainable" hashrate come back?
[08:47:00] you hope 2-3 months? more?
[08:47:05] so give it another couple of days. will probably overshoot to the downside, and then rise a bit as miners get updated and return
[08:47:22] 3 months minimum turnaround, yes
[08:47:28] nah
[08:47:36] don't underestimate asicmakers :)
[08:47:54] you guys don't get #1 priority on chip fabs
[08:47:56] 3 months = 90 days. do you know what is happening in those 90 days exactly? I'm pretty sure you don't. same thing as before.
[08:48:13] we don't do any secret chips btw
[08:48:21] 3 months assumes they had a complete design ready to go, and added the last minute change in 1 day
[08:48:24] do you know who is behind the hashrate that is now bricked?
[08:48:27] innosilicon?
[08:48:34] hyc: no no, and no. :)
[08:48:44] hyc: have you designed or taped out a chip before?
[08:48:51] yes, many years ago
[08:49:10] then you should know that 90 days is not a fixed number
[08:49:35] sure, but like I said, other makers have greater demand
[08:49:35] especially not if you can prepare, if you just have to modify something, or you have more programmability in the chip than some people assume
[08:50:07] we are chipmakers, we would never dare to do what you guys are doing with CNv4 :) but maybe that just means you are cooler!
[08:50:07] and yes, programmability makes some aspect of turnaround easier
[08:50:10] all fine
[08:50:10] I hope it works!
[08:50:28] do you know who is behind the hashrate that is now bricked?
[08:50:29] inno?
[08:50:41] we suspect so, but have no evidence
[08:50:44] maybe we can try to find them, but we cannot spend too much time on this
[08:50:53] it's probably not so much of a secret
[08:51:01] why should it be, right?
[08:51:10] devs want this cat-and-mouse game? devs get it...
[08:51:35] there was one leak saying it's innosilicon
[08:51:36] so you think 3 months, ok
[08:51:43] inno is cool
[08:51:46] good team
[08:51:49] IP design house
[08:51:54] in Wuhan
[08:52:06] they send their people to conferences with fake biz cards :)
[08:52:19] pretending to be other companies?
[08:52:26] sure
[08:52:28] ha ha
[08:52:39] so when we see them, we look at whatever card they carry and laugh :)
[08:52:52] they are perfectly suited for secret mining games
[08:52:59] they made at most $6 million in 2 months of mining, so I wonder if it was worth it
[08:53:10] yeah. no way to know
[08:53:15] but it's good that you calculate!
[08:53:24] this is all about cost/benefit
[08:53:25] then you also understand - imagine the value of XMR goes up 5x, 10x
[08:53:34] that whole "asic resistance" thing will come down like a house of cards
[08:53:41] I would imagine they sell immediately
[08:53:53] the investor may fully understand the risk
[08:53:57] the buyer
[08:54:13] it's not healthy, but that's another discussion
[08:54:23] so mid-June
[08:54:27] let's see
[08:54:49] I would be susprised if CNv4 ASICs show up at all
[08:54:56] surprised*
[08:54:56] why?
[08:55:05] is only an economic question
[08:55:12] yeah should be interesting. FPGAs will be near their limits as well
[08:55:16] unless XMR goes up a lot
[08:55:19] no, not *only*. it's also a technology question
[08:55:44] you believe CNv4 is "asic resistant"? which feature?
[08:55:53] it's not
[08:55:59] cnv4 = Rabdomx ?
[08:56:03] no
[08:56:07] cnv4=cryptinight/r
[08:56:11] ah
[08:56:18] CNv4 is the one we have now, I think
[08:56:21] since yesterday
[08:56:30] it's plenty enough resistant for current XMR price
[08:56:45] that may be, yes!
[08:56:55] I look at daily payouts. XMR = ca. 100k USD / day
[08:57:03] it can hold until October, but it's not asic resistant
[08:57:23] well, last 24h only 22,442 USD :)
[08:57:32] I think 80 h/s per watt ASICs are possible for CNv4
[08:57:38] linzhi-sonia where do you produce your chips? TSMC?
[08:57:44] I'm cruious how you would expect to build a randomX ASIC that outperforms ARM cores for efficiency, or Intel cores for raw speed
[08:57:48] curious
[08:58:01] yes, tsmc
[08:58:21] Our team did the world's first bitcoin asic, Avalon
[08:58:25] and upcoming 2nd gen Ryzens (64-core EPYC) will be a blast at RandomX
[08:58:28] designed and manufactured
[08:58:53] still being marketed?
[08:59:03] linzhi-sonia: do you understand what xmr wants to achieve, community-wise?
[08:59:14] Avalon? as part of Canaan Creative, yes I think so.
[08:59:25] there's not much interesting oing on in SHA256
[08:59:29] Inge-: I would think so, but please speak
[08:59:32] hyc: yes
[09:00:28] linzhi-sonia: i am curious to hear your thoughts. I am fairly new to this space myself...
[09:00:51] oh
[09:00:56] we are grandpas, and grandmas
[09:01:36] yet I have no problem understanding why ASICS are currently reviled.
[09:01:48] xmr's main differentiators to, let's say btc, are anonymity and fungibility
[09:01:58] I find the client terribly slow btw
[09:02:21] and I think the asic-forking since last may is wrong, doesn't create value and doesn't help with the project objectives
[09:02:25] which "the client" ?
[09:02:52] Monero GUI client maybe
[09:03:12] MacOS, yes
[09:03:28] What exactly is slow?
[09:03:30] linzhi-sonia: I run my own node, and use the CLI and Monerujo. Have not had issues.
[09:03:49] staying in sync
[09:03:49] linzhi-sonia: decentralization is also a key principle
[09:03:56] one that Bitcoin has failed to maintain
[09:04:39] hmm
[09:05:00] looks fairly decentralized to me. decentralization is the result of 3 goals imo: resilient, trustless, permissionless
[09:05:28] don't ask a hardware maker about physical decentralization. that's too ideological. we focus on logical decentralization.
[09:06:11] physical decentralization is important. with bulk of bitnoin mining centered on Chinese hydroelectric dams
[09:06:19] have you thought about including block data in the PoW?
[09:06:41] yes, of course.
[09:07:39] is that already in an algo?
[09:08:10] hyc: about "centered on chinese hydro" - what is your source? the best paper I know is this: https://coinshares.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Mining-Whitepaper-Final.pdf
[09:09:01] linzhi-sonia: do you mine on your ASICs before you sell them?
[09:09:13] besides testing of course
[09:09:45] that paper puts Chinese btc miners at 60% max
[09:10:05] tevador: I think everybody learned that that is not healthy long-term!
[09:10:16] because it gives the chipmaker a cost advantage over its own customers
[09:10:33] and cost advantage leads to centralization (physical and logical)
[09:10:51] you guys should know who finances progpow and why :)
[09:11:05] but let's not get into this, ha ha. want to keep the channel civilized. right OhGodAGirl ? :)
[09:11:34] tevador: so the answer is no! 100% and definitely no
[09:11:54] that "self-mining" disease was one of the problems we have now with asics, and their bad reputation (rightfully so)
[09:13:08] I plan to write a nice short 2-page paper or so on our chip design process. maybe it's interesting to some people here.
[09:13:15] basically the 5 steps I mentioned before, from math to physical
[09:13:32] linzhi-sonia: the paper you linked puts 48% of bitcoin mining in Sichuan. the total in China is much more than 60%
[09:13:38] need to run it by a few people to fix bugs, will post it here when published
[09:14:06] hyc: ok! I am just sharing the "best" document I know today. it definitely may be wrong and there may be a better one now.
[09:14:18] hyc: if you see some reports, please share
[09:14:51] hey I am really curious about this: where is a PoW algo that puts block data into the PoW?
[09:15:02] the previous paper I read is from here http://hackingdistributed.com/2018/01/15/decentralization-bitcoin-ethereum/
[09:15:38] hyc: you said that already exists? (block data in PoW)
[09:15:45] it would make verification harder
[09:15:49] linzhi-sonia: https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/campdivision.com/PDF/Computers%20General/Privacy/bitcoin/meh/hashimoto.pdf
[09:15:51] but for chips it would be interesting
[09:15:52] we discussed the possibility about a year ago https://www.reddit.com/Monero/comments/8bshrx/what_we_need_to_know_about_proof_of_work_pow/
[09:16:05] oh good links! thanks! need to read...
[09:16:06] I think that paper by dryja was original
[09:17:53] since we have a nice flow - second question I'm very curious about: has anyone thought about in-protocol rewards for other functions?
[09:18:55] we've discussed micropayments for wallets to use remote nodes
[09:18:55] you know there is a lot of work in other coins about STARK provers, zero-knowledge, etc. many of those things very compute intense, or need to be outsourced to a service (zether). For chipmakers, in-protocol rewards create an economic incentive to accelerate those things.
[09:19:50] whenever there is an in-protocol reward, you may get the power of ASICs doing something you actually want to happen
[09:19:52] it would be nice if there was some economic reward for running a fullnode, but no one has come up with much more than that afaik
[09:19:54] instead of fighting them off
[09:20:29] you need to use asics, not fight them. that's an obvious thing to say for an asicmaker...
[09:20:41] in-protocol rewards can be very powerful
[09:20:50] like I said before - unless the ASICs are so useful they're embedded in every smartphone, I dont see them being a positive for decentralization
[09:21:17] if they're a separate product, the average consumer is not going to buy them
[09:21:20] now I was talking about speedup of verifying, signing, proving, etc.
[09:21:23] they won't even know what they are
[09:22:07] if anybody wants to talk about or design in-protocol rewards, please come talk to us
[09:22:08] the average consumer also doesn't use general purpose hardware to secure blockchains either
[09:22:14] not just for PoW, in fact *NOT* for PoW
[09:22:32] it requires sw/hw co-design
[09:23:10] we are in long-term discussions/collaboration over this with Ethereum, Bitcoin Cash. just talk right now.
[09:23:16] this was recently published though suggesting more uptake though I guess https://btcmanager.com/college-students-are-the-second-biggest-miners-of-cryptocurrency/
[09:23:29] I find it pretty hard to believe their numbers
[09:24:03] well
[09:24:09] sorry, original article: https://www.pcmag.com/news/366952/college-kids-are-using-campus-electricity-to-mine-crypto
[09:24:11] just talk, no? rumors
[09:24:18] college students are already more educated than the average consumer
[09:24:29] we are not seeing many such customers anymore
[09:24:30] it's data from cisco monitoring network traffic
[09:24:33] and they're always looking for free money
[09:24:48] of course anyone with "free" electricity is inclined to do it
[09:24:57] but look at the rates, cannot make much money
[09:26:06] Ethereum is a bloated collection of bugs wrapped in a UI. I suppose they need all the help they can get
[09:26:29] Bitcoin Cash ... just another get rich quick scheme
[09:26:38] hmm :)
[09:26:51] I'll give it back to you, ok? ha ha. arrogance comes before the fall...
[09:27:17] maye we should have a little fun with CNv4 mining :)
[09:27:25] ;)
[09:27:38] come on. anyone who has watched their track record... $75M lost in ETH at DAO hack
[09:27:50] every smart contract that comes along is just waiting for another hack
[09:27:58] I just wanted to throw out the "in-protocol reward" thing, maybe someone sees the idea and wants to cowork. maybe not. maybe it's a stupid idea.
[09:29:18] linzhi-sonia: any thoughts on CN-GPU?
[09:29:55] CN-GPU has one positive aspect - it wastes chip area to implement all 18 hash algorithms
[09:30:19] you will always hear roughly the same feedback from me:
[09:30:52] "This algorithm very different, it heavy use floating point operations to hurt FPGAs and general purpose CPUs"
[09:30:56] the problem is, if it's profitable for people to buy ASIC miners and mine, it's always more profitable for the manufacturer to not sell and mine themselves
[09:31:02] "hurt"
[09:31:07] what is the point of this?
[09:31:15] it totally doesn't work
[09:31:24] you are hurting noone, just demonstrating lack of ability to think
[09:31:41] what is better: algo designed for chip, or chip designed for algo?
[09:31:43] fireice does it on daily basis, CN-GPU is a joke
[09:31:53] tevador: that's not really true, especially in a market with such large price fluctuations as cryptocurrency
[09:32:12] it's far less risky to sell miners than mine with them and pray that price doesn't crash for next six months
[09:32:14] I think it's great that crypto has a nice group of asicmakers now, hw & sw will cowork well
[09:32:36] jwinterm yes, that's why they premine them and sell after
[09:32:41] PoW is about being thermodynamically and cryptographically provable
[09:32:45] premining with them is taking on that risk
[09:32:49] not "fork when we think there are asics"
[09:32:51] business is about risk minimization
[09:32:54] that's just fear-driven
[09:33:05] Inge-: that's roughly the feedback
[09:33:24] I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I think it's not so simple as saying "it always happens"
[09:34:00] jwinterm: it has certainly happened on BTC. and also on XMR.
[09:34:19] ironically, please think about it: these kinds of algos indeed prove the limits of the chips they were designed for. but they don't prove that you cannot implement the same algo differently! cannot!
[09:34:26] Risk minimization is not starting a business at all.
[09:34:34] proof-of-gpu-limit. proof-of-cpu-limit.
[09:34:37] imagine you have a money printing machine, would you sell it?
[09:34:39] proves nothing for an ASIC :)
[09:35:05] linzhi-sonia: thanks. I dont think anyone believes you can't make a more efficient cn-gpu asic than a gpu - but that it would not be orders of magnitude faster...
[09:35:24] ok
[09:35:44] like I say. these algos are, that's really ironic, designed to prove the limitatios of a particular chip in mind of the designer
[09:35:50] exactly the wrong way round :)
[09:36:16] like the cache size in RandomX :)
[09:36:18] beautiful
[09:36:29] someone looked at GPU designs
[09:37:31] linzhi-sonia can you elaborate? Cache size in RandomX was selected to fit CPU cache
[09:37:52] yes
[09:38:03] too large for GPU
[09:38:11] as I said, we are designing the algorithm to exactly fit CPU capabilities, I do not claim an ASIC cannot be more efficient
[09:38:16] ok!
[09:38:29] when will you do the audit?
[09:38:35] will the results be published in a document or so?
[09:38:37] I claim that single-chip ASIC is not viable, though
[09:39:06] you guys are brave, noone disputes that. 3 anti-asic hardforks now!
[09:39:18] 4th one coming
[09:39:31] 3 forks were done not only for this
[09:39:38] they had scheduled updates in the first place
[09:48:10] Monero is the #1 anti-asic fighter
[09:48:25] Monero is #1 for a lot of reasons ;)
[09:48:40] It's the coin with the most hycs.
[09:48:55] mooooo
[09:59:06] sneaky integer overflow, bug squished
[10:38:00] p0nziph0ne ([email protected]/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) has joined #monero-pow
[11:10:53] The convo here is wild
[11:12:29] it's like geo-politics at the intersection of software and hardware manufacturing for thermoeconomic value.
[11:13:05] ..and on a Sunday.
[11:15:43] midipoet: hw and sw should work together and stop silly games to devalue each other. to outsiders this is totally not attractive.
[11:16:07] I appreciate the positive energy here to try to listen, learn, understand.
[11:16:10] that's a start
[11:16:48] <-- p0nziph0ne ([email protected]/vpn/privateinternetaccess/p0nziph0ne) has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[11:16:54] we won't do silly mining against xmr "community" wishes, but not because we couldn'd do it, but because it's the wrong direction in the long run, for both sides
[11:18:57] linzhi-sonia: I agree to some extent. Though, in reality, there will always be divergence between social worlds. Not every body has the same vision of the future. Reaching societal consensus on reality tomorrow is not always easy
[11:20:25] absolutely. especially at a time when there is so much profit to be made from divisiveness.
[11:20:37] someone will want to make that profit, for sure
[11:24:32] Yes. Money distorts.
[11:24:47] Or wealth...one of the two
[11:26:35] Too much physical money will distort rays of light passing close to it indeed.
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On the immorality of the mining cartel

The vast majority of the times profit = net benefit/value creation as a result of the subjective theory of value.
But in this scenario where the miners are redirecting inflation to themselves in order to give themselves control over the funding of developers, there is a clear externality being created whereby these miners benefit from money being taken from (via inflation) people who hold Bitcoin cash, and using said money to empower themselves.
It is true that people can simply sell their bch, if they don't like the idea of this cartel having so much control over development. But that doesn't mean that they are not affected by the negative externality. What they invested in and trusted to be a coin where the inflation was only securing the network via mining subsidies, has now been turned into a coin where a significant percent of the inflation is instead of securing the network, being given to a HK company that follows "non debate theory" in order for them to control the path of development. This is a negative externality in two ways, as the owners of the coin are not simply now losing security in their coin but also losing development decentralisation.
Selling your bch after realizing this doesn't mean you weren't negatively affected, it generally will mean you have lost hope in the soundness of this project and are disappointed that what could have been a global decentrally controlled peer to peer cash is now substantially more centralised and closer to legacy systems, resulting in you not seeing it as worth investing in anymore." An argument of mine from earlier today, on discord, on the ethics/externality.
Note: I am not currently selling any Bitcoin cash myself, that was for explanatory purposes.
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Kanye Songs Depicted As NBA Players (MBDTF)

Masterpiece 5/11
Dark Fantasy (Jeremy Lin)
When everyone thought after the Taylor Swift incident Kanye’s career would be over, Kanye masterfully created the greatest album of all time. Dark Fantasy was the opener of the album that put him in the GOAT conversation
Dark Fantasy is a song that gives perspective on Fame, and Jeremy Lin has witnessed a sudden rise to stardom like no other. Linsanity brought the whole league together in supporting him. Even his opponents were screaming for him. Both Kanye and Jeremy Lin came from middle class households, and both were struggling to make it in the game in their early parts of their career.
”I fantasized about this while watching Chicago. Melo, Carmelo me, Knicks mediocrealago. Injury, the first year that I blow. How do you say clutch in Chinese? Me llamo.”
Gorgeous (Donavan Mitchell)
Donavan Mitchell is an amazing example of players standing up to racism. Kanye is one of the few rappers that people with no interest in hip hop would listen to, or even could recognize. Donovan Mitchell has a voice that talk about social issues to a group of “fans” who aren’t particularly fond of people who look like Donovan outside the basketball court.
Also Donovan Mitchell is pretty good looking.
”Penitentiary chances, the devil dances. And eventually answers to the call of Autumn. All of them fallin' for the love of ballin'. Got caught with thirty rocks, the fan look like Alec Baldwin.”
Power (Shaquille O’Neal)
Shaquille O’Neal singled handily changed the NBA. Prior to the 2001-2002 season, help defense was illegal. Unfortunately for opposing big men, Shaq dominated, I mean DOMINATED his opponents. He was nearly 370 Pounds in LA, and still had very nice footwork. However, Shaq became quite a polarizing figure, just like Kanye. There’s moments when Shaq says something ridiculous and everybody clowns him, and there’s moments where Kanye steps out of line and we all make a small facepalm. But both Kanye and Shaq are fun, good spirited people who at the end of the day we hold respect for.
”Fuck Orlando they don’t pay cash. Tell em Diesel said Kobe can kiss my whole ass. And specifically he can kiss my ass hole. I can’t shoot free throws? You nephews got jokes.”
Shaq despite not being the quickest, will try to make some hustle plays.
”Now this will be a beautiful death. I’m jumping into the third row
All Of The Lights (Rajon Rondo)
On a game you could only watch on nbastreams...I mean league pass, Rajon Rondo appears to just be a nice playmaker who happens to not be an outside weapon. But when the TNT crew is in the arena or it’s a playoff game, Rondo transforms into one of the most entertaining players to watch in the NBA. Rondo may throw some of the most beautiful passes we’ve ever seen, or maybe throw 20+ assists or perhaps get a 32 point triple double
His fall from his Boston days could be described as:
”Something wrong, I remove my headband. KG gone, my Rivers left. I pissed off Ray, he joined DWade. I missed at the line, and passed that bread. I’m getting traded, I’m almost there. To my surprise, a midget replacing me. I had to take him to that Chris Paul University...”
Monster (Jay Z deleted verse)
”Barkley, Bradley, Johnson, Bogues, Patrick Ewing with no talent, question, what do all of these things have in common?”
So Appalled (Hassan Whiteside)
After Whiteside got paid after balling out before his contract year, his effort has severely lacked To improve the Heat’s interior defense, Spoelstra told Hassan to not mope like DJ Khaled playing the quiet game, and instead. ”Look Hassan, put two hands in the air if you don’t really care. Your contract sometimes, I mean ridiculous. It’s like that some times, I’m putting in Olynyk.”
All Hassan could respond with was “Fiji wishes and different exotic fishes”*
Devil In A New Dress (James Harden)
Oklahoma City was given a difficult question. Hold on to a 22 year old Serge Ibaka who was averaging nearly 4 blocks per game. Or keep their Sixth Man Of The Year, James Harden. The Thunder made the excellent decision in putting the former Sun Devil in a new Houston Rockets uniform. The future MVP’s trade to Houston was the most devastating event to occur in the city’s history.
”What happened to that 3-1 lead? Oh they blew it. KD packs his bags up, who casually could score. Serge Ibaka break ups, the casualty of tour. How Russ gon’ win and have no shooters on the floor? I thought I was the asshole, I guess it’s rubbin off. You signed the, Hooded Carmelonan, the Clanker of Shots, hard to be humble when you are staring down on a Wes Johnsotron.”
Runaway (Chris Paul)
I love Chris Paul, but it’s clear why fans and his opponents think he can be a douche at times. His aggressive physical play style can be changed to an egregious flop in a moments notice. Chris Paul also according to multiple sources, is not exactly loved by officials
”I don’t know what it is with officials. But I’m not too good at that shit. See I could have me a good team, but still be addicted to the State Farm Ads. See I just blame everything on you, at least you know that’s what I’m good at.”
Pusha Morey was asked about if he regrets trading for a PG who will be getting paid 44 million dollars when he’s 36.
”Twenty four seven, three sixty five, his contract stays on my mind. I-I-I-I did it. All right, all right, I admit it.”
Hell of a Life (Amir Johnson)
According to Nicki Minaj, Kanye West was watching adult content on his computer while working on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Whatever he was watching it happened to be a massive success. Amir Johnson, also is an adult films junky, at least according to the numerous actresses he follows.
Joel Embiid on what was on Amir’s phone
”His phone to hide, we both screwed the rules made, he wanna role play til his career over.”
Blame Game (Roy Hibbert)
Roy Hibbert was born ten years too late to be a hall of fame center. During the later stages of the successful 2010s Pacer Teams, Hibbert caught a lot of flak for his underperformance. What may have caused the Paul George, David West, George Hill and Roy Hibbert teams to fall apart was the rumor that Paul George was sleeping with Roy Hibbert’s wife
Roy Hibbert was caught listening into his wife servicing the rising NBA Superstar.
(All Credits for this excerpt go to u/rzpieces.)
“Oh my God
Baby you done took this shit to the nother motherfuckin' level!
Now a perimeter defender like me
Ain't supposed to be gettin' no shot blocker like this
Goddamn, Goddamn! Who thought you how to get vertical for a nephew?
Hibbert taught me.
You never use to play dirty, but now you you throwing elbows!
My, my God, where'd you learn that?
Hibbert taught me.
Look at you, motheruckin' butt ass naked, with them, Hibbert 2s on Who thought you how to put some Hibbert 2s on?
Hibbert thought me
Yo you took your paint defence up a whole 'nother level
This is some Cirque du Soleil defence now shit!
You done went all-NBA on a nephew OK
And I, and I love it
And I thank you, I thank you, my legs thank you!
How did you learn, how, how did your rim protection come up?
Hibbert taught me
I was coasting on players I never coasted on before
I was in there like ooh shit I never been here before
I've never even seen this part of blow-by town before
It's like you got this shit re-upholstered or some shit
Who the fuck happened?
Who, who the fuck got your defence all re-upholstered?
Hibbert re-upholstered my defense
You know what, I got to thank Hibbert
And when I see that nephew I'ma thank him
I'ma buy his HibbertCoin
I'ma mine that motherfucker
I'ma shoot a bitcoiner!
That's how good I feel about this nephew
Ahh, I still can't believe you got me this ring
This motherfucker is the exact motherfucker I wanted!
You went to the finals! This is the motherfucker I wanted
I saw this, I saw it
Kobe had this shit on on the bench
I remember! Kobe had this on on the bench
That's right, that's right!
Yo yo babe, yo yo this is the best birthday ever!
Where you learn to treat a nephew like this?
Hibbert taught me
Hibbert taught you well, Hibbert taught you well”
Lost In The World (Tobias Harris to Boban)
Lost In The World is supposedly a love letter Kanye emailed to his now wife Kim Kardashian. And their bond together is almost as strong as Boban’s and Tobias’s
you are my Boban, you are my Haris
Who Will Survive In America
Hopefully Enes Kanter.
The College Dropout
Late Registration
808s and Heartbreak
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I am stepping down as a moderator of r/btc and exiting the bitcoin community and entering the Ethereum community.

I am stepping down as a moderator of btc and exiting the bitcoin community. Thank you all for fighting until the end. I know I am going to get a lot of hate from pretty much everyone for this post, but I felt the need to post it anyway.

Why Give Up?

I think bitcoin is past the point of no return. There are a number of different routes that bitcoin could take this year, and as far as I can see, they all end up at the same destination; failure. I know I am going to get a lot of flack for this post, and I understand that. I have witnessed bitcoin being announced “dead” many many times throughout its history and I absolutely could be wrong, but almost every one of their predictions were based on a lack of understanding of bitcoin. I don’t feel my prediction is has a lack of understanding. If I am wrong, then I feel it will be through sheer luck that bitcoin survives. I was a bitcoin early adopter in 2011 and have invested far more time into bitcoin than is reasonable. I truly hope bitcoin does survive, but what I think will happen is not predicated on what I want to happen.

How might bitcoin fall?

The Past

I am not going to go through everything that has lead us up to this point. Many of your are well aware of what has brought us here. Bitcoin up until the beginning of 2014 was an unparalleled success. For those of you who weren’t around at the time, there was a huge amount of excitement in the community at all times. It felt like every month there was some announcement that had a positive impact on bitcoin. A new major company offering bitcoin payments, a bitcoin company offering a new service, a new piece of software being added to clients to make them more useful. Bitcoin was making continual progress and the community was unified. Compare the situation back then to day. We have now had 2 years of stagnation, and in many cases degradation of the network.

The Present

The network is now slow and expensive (and getting slower and more expensive), companies have been leaving bitcoin at an exponential rate. No new major companies have adopted bitcoin and there are no signs of this changing in the future. The community is irreparably divided and is at war with itself. Development has stalled.
Where bitcoin has stalled, other cryptocurrencies have been making enormous ground. Bitcoin does not exist in a vacuum. It has competition. Other cryptocurrencies already offer significantly more advance features than bitcoin. The only thing bitcoin has left over other cryptocurrencies is it’s network effect. The inertia of network effect is truly enormous. Bitcoin has been coasting on it for 2 years now. Technology develops rapidly though, and many people are always looking for the next big thing. Investors want to make money and developers want to work on the most advance and growing technology. There has been very little investment into new bitcoin specific companies over the past 2 years. The only new bitcoin company I know of that has received significant investment in the past two years is Blockstream. There has been a very large amount of investment into blockchain companies in general though. The money is there, it’s just not going into bitcoin.
Ethereum has now reached close to 1/3 of bitcoin’s market cap and there is no sign that it is going to let up any time soon. The ethereum community is a breath of fresh air compared to the current bitcoin community and it feels very nostalgic there. It feels very much like the bitcoin community did 3-4 years ago. They have showed that they are not afraid of using hard forks to upgrade the protocol. They have a leader who is intelligent, pragmatic and good at communicating and IMO who is likely to get the network through the early volatile years. The community showed that they value pragmatism and reality over ideology when they stopped a theft of a large percentage of the currency supply and did so without having any adverse affects on anyone other than the thief. They also achieved this while under attack from bitcoin. They have been working with major organisations and companies to promote and forward the use of the network and they listen to the users of the network to find out what problems they have and which features they want, and then work towards satisfying the needs of their users. The developers of the network have known large holdings of the currency, which means conflicts of interest are less likely to arise and protocol development can directly correlate increased returns for the developer’s investment.

The Future

There are a number of possibilities, but I believe all end with very similar outcomes.

Scenario 1 - BU/EC gains 75% of the network hash rate

If BU gains 75% of the network hash rate, a hard fork will become likely (although not certain). Core and their supporters will start to try and burn down the network. All communication channels will overflow with FUD (some real, some fake). Core supporters with large bitcoin holdings will start dumping them on the market in ways that will cause the most damage to price. Core will start recommending at the very minimum a difficulty readjustment and quite likely also a POW change. Price will fall extremely far as speculators adjust their risk exposure and wait out the storm, traders will short the market to make as much money as possible during the fall, and core supporters try to get the BTC price to go as low as possible on the BU/EC side of the fork and BU/EC supporters try to get the price to BCC price to go as low as possible. Whatever the price is before the fork is certain, I think it is likely to reach 50% of that between the time a fork becomes certain and when the fork actually happens. After the fork happens the price could go down to literally any level. While this is happening, the Ethereum market cap is going to overtake bitcoin even if the Ethereum price does not increase (which it will). Bitcoin will not survive this. The moment Ethereum overtakes bitcoin as the biggest cryptocurrency, everyone will find out. It will be posted in articles in every technology news website on the internet. Once the casual bitcoin holders/users find out (hint most do not even pay attention to what is going on in bitcoin) they will quickly panic and either sell to fiat, or sell into Ethereum to speculate. Mining will almost instantly become unprofitable at that point. Monumentally unprofitable in fact. The payout of 12.5 per block will not even slightly cover the cost of electricity and because miners have no direct control over the price of bitcoin they will be absolutely powerless to do anything other than mine at a loss for a very long period of time. If bitcoin price drops to $100, which IMO is very conservative, then it is likely that 90% of the miners will have to turn their hardware off. This means that the difficulty adjustment periods will increase by a factor of 10 to 20 weeks. These miners that are left will need to mine at a huge loss for up to 20 weeks, or hope that somehow the price recovers. I don’t think even the biggest miners could survive that. Further difficulty reset hard forks will be proposed and it will be chaos.
While all of this is happening, Ethereum is likely to be running fine and price will likely be rising significantly as money from bitcoin pours into it.

Scenario 2 - BU/EC never gains 75% of the network hash rate

In this scenario there will be absolutely stalemate. Core will not be able to implement Segwit and therefore will not be able to change bitcoin into a settlement network, but also the transaction throughput will not be increased through larger blocks. The debate will have become so vitriolic that no further progress can be made within bitcoin. Bitcoin simply will not scale on OR off-chain. In this scenario the end is not so violent like in scenario 1 but then end result is the same. Ethereum (and other cryptocurrencies in general) will continue to gain market share throughout the year as Bitcoin remains stuck in stalemate. The bitcoin price continues decreasing and the Ethereum price keeps on increasing until Ethereum overtakes bitcoin. Once the flip happens, it will accelerate significantly as people realise what is happening. The end result is the same as the later part of scenario 1.

Scenario 3 - BU/EC lose most/all of the network hash rate

In this scenario Core manages to get Segwit accepted by the network. Most people in btc simply leave bitcoin for good. Fees will remain high and transaction throughput low. Core will not increase the block size limit until after LN has been proven to work and users have been forced/coerced into using it. LN is not anywhere near ready for production and it is likely to take at least 2 more years until it is released and working and another year or two until it is fully implemented into wallets, and then another year until businesses are able to understand and use it in their backend. I.e. in an ideal world where everything works as intended in this theoretical system it will take 4-5 years until bitcoin has similar properties to what it had 2 years ago. This obviously ignores the fact that there has been no analysis on whether this would even work on an economic level, let alone a technological level.
As transaction fees rise users and business will be pushed into using other cryptocurrencies and fiat and at some point bitcoin’s network effect will be overcome by Ethereum’s. This scenario is essentially the same as scenario 3, but there maybe some initial price pump when Segwit activates and people enjoy and end to the debate. This will likely be short lived though.

What is most likely to happen (IMO)

If BU/EC is to continue to gain further market share of the hash rate and reach the 75% requirement that many parties have suggested. It is likely to take at least a couple more months of deliberations. For this to happen, a number of large pools will need to switch over. Bitfury has stated that they will not support BU and are mining Segwit and have even started mining UASF blocks. HaoBTC is still sticking to the HK agreement (which literally no one else is) and will not be running anything other than Core. This means it is really down to F2Pool and some of the smaller Pools. F2Pool has stated that it will stop signalling for classic and there is no indication that it will start signalling for anything other than Core (not segwit), and has stated that he thinks BU is dead.
This suggests that the most likely scenario is scenario 2. BU/EC will not activate, but nor will Segwit. There are some things that may or may not happen in this scenario. For example it seems that Core are willing to do a UASF to push Segwit through under the pretence that any of the miners that are not mining Segwit are illegitimate as they are against the “consensus”. This will force the miners into making some kind of decision either way. Many are likely to side with Core but I think a significant portion will side with BU initially. A number of different things could happen in this scenario depending on the ratio of hash power on each side of the split. If the split is mostly equal, I expect that two coins will survive for some amount of time. What happens with bitcoin from that point I have no idea. If BU/EC gains the most hash power then the debate will rage on as the BU/EC will refuse to attack the minority chain out of moral reasons. What happens with bitcoin from that point I have no idea. If Core gains the majority share then the BU minority chain will be attacked by some of the majority miners. Core and their supporters do not have any moral objections against this kind of attack. The minority BU miners will then switch back to Core and it will likely play out like in scenario 3.

So this is BU’s fault for forcing a hard fork?

No, this is Core’s fault by making a hard fork dangerous by telling everyone a hard fork is dangerous for the past two years and blocking every conceivable compromise. They have petrified the bitcoin community and convinced them that any kind of hard fork for any reason that does not come from them is dangerous. They have done this to hold onto the power they should not even have in the first place. They have become the self appointed kings of bitcoin. They have achieved this by threatening to burn down the network instead of making a compromise, and by attacking anyone who threatens to take this power away from them. Unfortunately, when Gavin stepped down, he handed to keys to the bitcoin house to the wolves and once they are inside, it seems it is not possible to get them out again. The only way to make them totally irrelevant is to exit and let them be kings of nothing.

Why did you even become a mod in the first place?

I have known bitcoin was on a negative trajectory for quite some time but I felt that one last push to save it was worth my effort. I wanted to help btc be the best bitcoin subreddit to overcome some of the damage that bitcoin has done to the community. IMO btc is the best bitcoin subreddit, but it is far from perfect. I feel very strongly that the moderation of btc is a microcosm of the situation in the bitcoin community in general. I feel there is far too much weight put on idealogical decision making rather pragmatism and realism. The moderation policies of btc are ‘hands-off’ to a point I think is actually detrimental to the sub and to bitcoin. The issue is that, trolls overwhelm the sub and cause constant controversy. They act like a fire under the community and purposely rile everyone up. There is a reason for this. bitcoin was controlled mostly through censorship. Censorship alone was enough to create an echo chamber. They do not have control of the btc moderation team (well actually they managed to get two mods on here who have since left/been removed) so they must turn it into an echo-chamber by other means. They have achieved this by making sure every single post has comments from trolls that try to rile up the community. This makes the btc community have more tunnel vision as they/we try to insulate ourselves from the trolls. The problem is that it means that the community becomes highly idealogical and focused on only one goal.
IMO it is a failure of this sub to not remove comments from trolls. This is pretty much a standard policy across the whole of reddit and the only reasons for not employing it are idealogical. Removing trolling is not the same as banning specific ideas or topics being genuinely discussed. Not doing so just makes btc a frustrating place to try and discuss things. It also means that any actual discussions outside the block size debate get very little traction as everyone gets dragged into the angry posts.
I should be clear though, the other mods of this sub are great and absolutely want what is best for bitcoin.

Isn’t this all just FUD

I am not writing this to sway anyone. This is what I genuinely think will happen, but of course I could be wrong about every single prediction. It saddens me enormously to write this. The current trajectory for Bitcoin is down and the the trajectory for Ethereum and other cryptocurrencies is up. There will likely be people who say “but Ethereum doesn’t have any uses cases”, my argument to that is; what use-cases does bitcoin have right now that could not immediately be adopted by Ethereum today? There will also be people who say “but if bitcoin dies then all other cryptocurrencies will die with it, because how could anyone trust their money if it might just disappear”? My argument to that is; all cryptocurrencies are still in their infancy, even bitcoin. The writing has been on the wall for Bitcoin for quite some time. I do think there will likely be one ‘great’ cryptocurrency, but until that cryptocurrency is adopted by the masses, that title is still available. If the title of ‘biggest cryptocurrency’ can be taken then it was likely never meant to have it very long anyway. If/When a cryptocurrency manages to achieve mass adoption then it will have hundreds of millions of people, companies, organisations and even countries defending it. At that point the entire system will be working towards it’s success. At that point, the current moral ambivalence towards attacking a minority chain will be seen as ridiculous. After mass adoption of a cryptocurrency (for example Ethereum) has occurred, grandma’s will be writing to their local MP in support of the cyberwar against the Ethereum competitor ‘Othereum’. That is decentralisation. Huge numbers of diverse entities working to defend it. This will never happen on a network as limited as bitcoin’s is. In fact bitcoin is actively losing allies.


I’m out. Ethereum is likely to take over this year as bitcoin becomes myspace. This may happen very rapidly. I hope I am wrong.


I hold both Bitcoin and Ethereum. I have held a number of different cryptocurrencies over the years, but my holdings were almost always 90-100% bitcoin until recently.
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Welcome to r/Cardano, the reddit home of the Cardano blockchain. Read this to get started.

Welcome to Cardano!

Cardano is a highly secure blockchain written in Haskell. It allows formal verification of code, and easy extensibility through a layered architecture. Cardano’s technology is built from peer-reviewed research at some of the world’s foremost universities.
After more than two years of planning and development, we're delighted to announce that the Cardano blockchain was publicly launched on the 29th September 2017. Cardano's Ada token was then made available for trading on the 1st October at Bittrex exchange.
On this subreddit you can learn more about the project, understand its great potential and engage in the worldwide Cardano community!

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What is Cardano?

Cardano is a security focused blockchain that harnesses the latest research and engineering insights to build a platform suitable for the highest value applications.
Built on a foundation of peer-reviewed research created through partnerships with the world’s foremost universities, Cardano aims to create a platform for decentralised applications and smart contracts that can be processed with a technique called formal verification.
This allows logical proof of the correctness of code and smart contracts, for those applications where value is high and security is paramount. Cardano combines this with an innovative layered approach that separates accounting of value from all other smart contract and computation activity.
This means functionality can be added to smart contract capabilities without changing the protocol responsible for the cryptocurrency.

The Team

Cardano is made up of three companies who each have distinct roles in the project.
  1. Cardano Foundation: A Swiss non-profit and guardian of the Cardano ecosystem and community. It aims to proactively work with governments and regulatory bodies, as well as forming strategic partnerships with enterprises and other open-source projects to further global adoption of the technology.
  2. IOHK: A world-class engineering and technology company committed to using peer-to-peer innovations to provide financial services to three billion people that don’t have them. The group is contracted to design, build, and maintain the Cardano platform until 2020.
  3. Emurgo: a company formed to integrate, develop and support businesses who want to utilise Cardano's decentralised blockchain.

What is unique about the project?

Cardano is the first blockchain project to be built on peer reviewed academic research.
This level of scrutiny of the underlying technology is an industry first. Further to this, Cardano is unique in that it’s written in the Haskell coding language.
Haskell is considered to be one of the most secure programming languages, minimizing the number of errors and adding extremely robust security to the platform. This includes use of a technique called formal verification, which allows mathematical proof of the correctness of code.
Cardano is also designed to operate in regulated industries whilst protecting individual privacy. Applications built on Cardano can be individually customised to meet regulator requirements, but individuals can protect their privacy by choosing whether they want to enter regulated domains.

How can I get Ada?

Right now the only exchange that Cardano has partnered with is Bittrex.com. More exchange partnerships will be announced in the coming weeks and months. Bittrex currently only offers a Bitcoin to Ada trading pair, but others will be added soon. You can sign up to Bittrex here.

How do I send/receive Ada?

You'll want to start by getting a wallet. Cardano's development partner IOHK has built the Daedalus wallet, allowing users to securely store their Ada. It will eventually support many different cryptocurrencies.

Key Documents & Project resources


Key Resources

Cardano Hub: The main website for all Cardano, from here all information and resources.
The Block Explorer: Search addresses, transactions, epochs & slots on the Cardano network.
The Daedalus Wallet: The open source cryptocurrency wallet for Ada, built to grow with the community.

The Whitepapers

Cardano has a very strong academic heritage and is the first cryptocurrency to have one of its academic papers accepted at Crypto 2017, the leading cryptography conference. IOHK have research centres or partnerships with many of the top global academic institutions including the University of Edinburgh and the Tokyo Institute of Technology.
On the Cardano Hub website, there are two sections within the Whitepapers tab:
  1. Philosophy: Confusingly most cryptocurrency projects call this their whitepaper, using the word in a non-academic sense. Here you can learn where the project has come from, and what its goals are. It explains how Cardano embraces the latest academic and engineering insights to build a highly secure Haskell blockchain.
  2. Academic Papers: This section hosts the peer-reviewed research papers that are behind Cardano's technology, including the first provably secure PoS protocol Ouroboros.

Monetary Policy

  • Total Max Supply: 45,000,000,000 ADA
  • Total Ada distributed in Pre-Sale: 25,927,070,538 ADA
An amount equal to 20% of Ada vouchers sold during the Sale period, or 5,185,414,107 Ada vouchers were generated and distributed to three entities of the Cardano ecosystem that are part of the Technical and Business Development pool: IOHK, Emurgo and Cardano Foundation.
Together with the Ada sold, this brings the supply of allocated tokens to 31,112,483,745 ADA.
More details can be read in the Cardano monetary policy document.

The Code & Technical Documentation

The entire Cardano blockchain is completely open source software and is available to see on Github. There is also extensive technical documentation produced by IOHK which can be viewed here.

The Roadmap

The Cardano roadmap is due to be released imminently and will be published here.


The pre-launch token sale of Ada ran from September 2015 to January 2017 was undertaken over 4 different tranches. During the sale the average price paid for 1 Ada was $0.0024 USD and 94.8% of Ada voucher holders who participated in the sale are Japanese. The audit report summary carried out by Cardano Foundation is available here, and the genesis block distribution may be seen here.

Mining and Staking

We are currently in the bootstrap era during which IOHK and Cardano Foundation trusted nodes are currently operating the network. We will then move into the reward era for which details will be released very soon and updated here.


There have been a number of articles published about Cardano. You can read about Cardano on Nasdaq, Forbes, or Bitcoin magazine amongst others.

Other Stuff

Rules & Moderation

We strive to maintain a friendly, informative and happy atmosphere here. Our primary policy is to lead with respect on all counts. We will flag and delete any posts that contain:
  • Rude or offensive commentary
  • Nudity or graphic content
  • Anything that can be described as "trolling"
  • Anything that can be described as "spammy"
Our community guidelines are simple, but strict:
  • Always be supportive and helpful to others
  • Speak to others the way you'd like them to speak to you

Join the Cardano Community!

Further questions or help? - Join the Cardano Community! If you have any further questions, Cardano community staff as well as knowledgeable community members are always on hand to assist you. We have lots of community channels, you can find us on Slack, Facebook, Twitter, or Youtube.
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