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Thanks MRP/ASKMRP, you fixed a man, and a marriage, although i no longer want the marriage.

130 lbs. 5’0” BF 14% (Navy) 38 old
Squat: 230 x5, OHP: 108 x5, Rows: 124 x5, Bench: 141 x5, Deadlift: 245 x5.
MMSLP, WISNIFG, NMMNG, Rollo Best of year 1,2, 16COP, BOPook, TWOTSM, Bang, RationalMale, SGM, BP professored man group/ryan stone/rollo youtube videos, Huge amounts MRP/ASKMRP posts
Together for 12 married for 10, wife 33, kids 4 and 8.
This post is to say thank you to this community for the help you provided me, it truly is a goldmine of information, the hard work of putting it all together and laid out ready to follow is much appreciated. Also this post is for my own reference in future, for comparison for others and for any comments anyone would like to make.
What happened.......
15-16 months ago i got the ILYBNILWY speach. I knew this was really bad as I had some red pill knowledge. I discovered David Deangello and RSD back in my early 20s, and did a bootcamp with RSD Ozzie. However most of what i learned was all about cold approach pickup, nothing about long term relationships/hypergamy, lifting etc, but I knew about shit tests, oneitis, being non-needy, OI, just game stuff really. It got me from incel to a few dates and lays to the wife who was the first one who was super into me, sex every day etc.
So I did some searching online about the ILYBNILWY and found Athol Kay and then MRP/AskMRP. I knew instantly the info here was legit due to past knowledge, so began lifting and reading the sidebar as fast as a could. I started focusing on the shit tests she would throw which almost alawys came in the morning whilst getting ready for work, STFU and AA were weird at first but i just kept thinking dont DEER, and that automatically lead to STFU.
After ILYBNILWY she wouldn't kiss me and no sex, she gradually started responding to my efforts though and wanted to cuddle in bed again and would kiss me as we used to, But then almost exactly a year ago, I found out she had been having an affair, it went on for about 4 months and ended a few weeks before I found out.
What gave it away..........
What gave it away was the ILYBNILWY speach, then little sex, wouldnt even kiss(peck) me leaving the house, said she 'could' sleep with others and still maintain relationship and would i sleep with other girls if she said i could (covert talk). She was calling me shit head disrespectfully a lot and talking about divorce a fair bit. She panicked when i wanted to use her phone camera and started the camera for me instead of letting me do it, waxed her vagina for first time, started getting nails and hair done regularly and asked for anal out of the blue (just before the ILYBNILWY). This was the one that got me to check her phone secrelty, after listening to Rollo and Donovan Sharp saying women do this to practice for the alpha.
I took her phone when she was asleep and exported all the SMS messages and it was clear what was going on.
What I did........................
Initially i bluffed about not being sure of what to do, I told her family to give her a consequence and told her if anything else happens its immediately over. After the ILYBNILWY speach i started lifting and reading the sidebar as fast as i could. I couldnt believe that even though i thought i was enlightened to women compared to most, there was still so much i didnt know. After a couple of months of doing callisthenics, bought a barbell, squat rack and a bench, started stronglifts 5x5 and saw huge progress. I continued to focus on shit tests andI then started playing football (soccer) with friends again once a week like I used to and started going out for beers with them again, something i stopped doing when the kids were born. I took every chance to lead, doing housework, cleaning, aranging kids birthday parties, buying christmas presents, what to do on the weekends etc.
Over the last year, half my wardrobe has been replaced with newer, nicer clothing, my old stuff was old and worn and started good grooming habits that I long since stopped doing. When ive been out with friends ive been practising cold approach pickup and Im also just starting to learn guitar and my first karate class is next month.
Ive been stashing bitcoin and gold/silver bought with cash as much as i can without it being noticed, so its all unknown by her and off the books, also read up on divorce proceedings and divorce strategy.
Ive now read a huge amount of material, done stronglifts5x5, madcow 5x5 and customised madcow 5x10 variant, not missed more than 2 days training since i started. I look and dress much better, smell better, and im in the best shape ive ever been by far. Im far bigger, stronger than ever and my 6-pack is just now starting to look good as im currently cutting. I have a strong sense of mission, to experience and get good at everything i have ability to and im enjoying life again like i havent for years.
How she responded................
Initially after finding out about the affair, i was initiating about 3-4 times a week, and although she would have sex it felt obligated and forced and she would complain a lot about what i was doing, saying shes not enjoying it etc, the frequency was 1-2 times a week with 1-2 turn downs. Her general attitude was improving and shit testing was slowly getting less and softer, less aggressive. She initially would say you doing weights now in a grump, i would just say yes and carry on, but that subsided as time went on, now its just what i do. Then she started giving me complements about my body, touching, having better sex, less turn downs and then saying she loves me again, I say it back using the 2/3rds rule.
It was a mixed bag, lots of improvements but the real turning point happend when we were at the beach late last summer with her sister, i had my top off and her sister commented on how my body looked hot. Things then improved further very noticeably.
This continued until now where I rarely get denied sex, its about 75% starfish 25% active participation, she often will wear lingerie when i ask, anal sometimes, in different locations, recorded a time with a camera, and she never even did those things even when first met. Sex frequency is about 3-4 times per week, and her horneyness is 100% linked to her menstrual cycle. The 1000ft rope has pulled a little, she has tried dieting twice over the last 3 months. She says she loves cuddling at night me more than anything, follows my lead when cleaning house, shit tests less frequent and softer, generally more pleasant to be around, less stressed, less lazy, better to the kids, and she says she loves me all the time.
Now...............
Initially i had no plan to leave, i bluffed to her that couldn't decide what to do but deep down i was never going to leave due to the kids, I value my kids tremendously, above all else. Whilst being a blue pill beta, her lazyness and complaining about how difficult the kids were, I would take it upon myself to take all work away from her to make happy. So i gradually dropped my own hobbies, friends, etc so i could look after the kids at all times, do everything so she could relax, do what she wanted thinking this made me a good husband. It made my kids even more everything to me, i was either at work or with the kids, that was my life.
Now i still put my kids at the top, in the grand scheme of life im will accommodate my life heavily for a few years for them by staying so as to have full involvement and time with them whilst they are young. So i will keep reading, lifting (it just what i do now, i cant believe im 38 and never realised how much difference this makes for women), dressing well, gaming on nights out and leading. The marriage is better than it has been since the honeymoon period but ultimately I dont want it anymore, Ive lost my trust and respect for her. The wife goggles are off and i can see shes jsut a mostly lazy, HB5, not a great mother who drinks too much.She has tried losing weight recently but fails after a week or 2, I think she just doesnt have it in her to lose any significant amount of weight. The thought of financially supporting her when kids are older and left home is abhorrent to me. The constant question that comes to mind is 'what value does she add to my life and what is the cost to my life for that'
My plan is to stick to my MAP above for a few years, become the best man i can, enjoy my kids living with me 7 days a week until they are a little older and more independent so as to lessen the affect of only seeing them 50% of the week (about 3 years when they are 7 and 11) then start having fun with hookers as that has a low chance of getting caught (Did it once already soon after i found out about the affair for revenge). If i get caught no worries, we split, i see them regularly still and i wont affect our relationship too much as they are a bit older. If i dont get caught a few years after that when they are both 10+, i up and leave anyway and hopefully take the kids with me and hit the dating scene as the best man I can be.
When i contemplate the last year, i think its sad that the world is like this, every single mum in the playground picking up their kid has a corresponding man with a similar story no doubt, and every kid from a broken home (and there a a LOT) has a degraded father relationship as a result, but i digress. Im looking forward to what lies ahead of me, i now feel like im living a life rather than just existing, with purpose and direction.
Thanks for reading, hope it helps someone, and now i must continue my path.
submitted by fruitylad to askMRP [link] [comments]

Doing the Math on the S4E10 eCoin Transaction...

In this week's Mr Robot episode, Darlene sits on a park bench with Dom, and distributes the money she stole from the Deus Group to everybody, evenly. I timed the transaction as it happened in the show. It was 24 seconds, between her hitting return and seeing the following message on her screen: "*Transfers Complete. All Wallets Updated*" This processing time includes a message that says, "cleaning coins through crypto tumbler". It took 1 minute and 16 seconds for the transaction to tumble, process, and for the recipients to begin to get notices that they received money in their accounts.
If you have worked with bitcoin, you know that cryptocurrency does not work like this. Transferring money is a slow and sometimes expensive process, as transaction fees eat into every transaction. I know that eCoin isn't necissarily bitcoin, because it's controlled by eCorp, but it's fun to think about what happens if eCoin works like bitcoin does today...
How much money was transferred?
According to Forbes, the most wealthy people in the world are worth a combined $8.7 trillion, or $2.7 trillion. It depends on which Forbes list you are looking at. On the actual Forbes web site, they say the richest people in the world are worth $8.7 trillion, but they do not state how many of the richest people in the world are worth that much. If you look at sites like Victor Media, they publish a table of the 100 most wealthy people, and say they got the list from Forbes. They probably did purchase the list from Forbes. If I put the Victor Media list into excel, and add all the values in the net worth column, that number comes out to $2.7 trillion. So Forbes might be talking about a list that is more than the top 100 people, and sell the top 100 people list to sites like Victor Media? I don't know.
Either way, we are talking about somewhere between $2.7 and $8.7 trillion.
How many people did the money go to?
That's complicated. There was no global montage showing people celebrating all over the world (which I found a little surprising, even though I still love how this episode was shot). The only indication of a truly global transfer, to every individual in the world, is a TV screen in the airport saying that, "Global eCoin Payout... Deus group collapses as wealth spreads around the world." So Darlene could have sent the money to every individual with an eCoin wallet in the world, or she could be sending them to every American, or to everybody in the developed world. I doubt the average rice farmer in Indonesia is really using eCoin, but it's possible. If she only sent it to every American, our wealth tends to spread around the globe pretty fast, so that's possible, too.
Lets work with World Bank population numbers for all three of these possibilities...
World Population: 7.6 billion people
Global North (AKA the developed world): 1.24 billion people
United States: 327 million people
So we have 6 possibilities for how much money was sent to each person...
People Total Money Money Per Capita Satoshis
7.6 billion $2.7 trillion $355.53 4,739,471
1.21 billion $2.7 trillion $2230.82 29,741,808
327 million $2.7 trillion $8252.65 110,079,512
7.6 billion $8.7 trillion $1145.60 15,279,332
1.21 billion $8.7 trillion $7188.22 95,883,716
327 million $8.7 trillion $26591.89 355,275,242
How much would this transaction cost with bitcoin?
Aside from the fact that eCoin probably functions differently than bitcoin, this is a very complex question. I'm definitely not as sure about these numbers as the other numbers I have, but I'll do my best to come up with useful, realistic numbers. If you are more familiar with the block chain than me, please correct me.
The coins were taken from 100 different Deus Group accounts. Lets say each transaction launders through a bitcoin tumbler 1,000 times. I'm going to ignore transaction fees for the tumbling process, because I don't fully understand the details of tumbling, but 1,000 times seems reasonable to me.
That means that there are 100 x 1,000 = 10,000 inputs in any transaction that spends all the money from the Deus group.
For outputs... for simplicity's sake, I will make the conservative assumption that everybody has one eCoin wallet. That means somewhere between 327 million and 7.6 billion outputs. Accounting for everybody having multiple wallets would make the transaction even bigger, but this is a good starting point to get a feel for what this transaction would look like, in the real world.
How long will this transaction take to process?
There is a bidding process and a bit of politics involved in processing a cryptocurrency transaction. For simplicity, I'll assume we bid enough that this transaction gets priority treatment from the bitcoin miners.
According to blockchain.com, transactions happen on the block chain at a rate of roughly 3.5 transactions per second. At that rate, the tumbling would take roughly 48 minutes, rather than the few seconds it took for Darlene to tumble this money.
According to buybitcoinworldwide.com's fee calculator, here are the transaction sizes, the transaction fees involved (in US Dollars), and the time it would take at 3.5 transactions per second...
Inputs Outputs Size Cost Time
10,000 7.6 billion 240.4737 Gb $38,884,280.55 68.85 years
10,000 1.21 billion 38.32587 Gb $6,192,571.09 10.96 years
10,000 327 million 10.35582 Gb $1,673,260.46 2.96 years
So this transaction would take years to go through, and it pays Evil Corp somewhere between $1.6 and $38 million. In the real world, most of that money would go to Chinese bitcoin miners.
What would the impact be?
A one time windfall of $327 per capita would probably not trigger hyperinflation in America. The largest payout we calculated was $26.5k, and I doubt that would cause hyperinflation, either. Regular inflation? Yes. Hyperinflation? Probably not.
It might lead to hyperinflation in other countries, though, because of differences in purchasing power.
Purchasing power parity is a number that describes the differences in the cost of goods and services around the world. $5 in America will buy you a big mac, but if you go to, say, Indonesia, you can buy a lot more with that $5, because Indonesia is full of people who make something like 25 cents a week.
OECD.org publishes PPP (purchasing power parity) numbers for countries all around the world. If you want to know how far your dollar will stretch, on average, in a foreign country, consult this list. If you have $100 in America, you can expect it to be worth $100 worth of American goods and services, so on the OECD table, it has a PPP of 1.0. If you take that $100 to, say, the UK, where the PPP is 0.7, you can expect that $100 to be worth $70 worth of goods and services. If you take that $100 to Australia, where the PPP is 1.48, you can expect that $100 to buy roughly $148 worth of goods and services.
If Elliot and Darlene were genius economists, I might expect them to account for PPP in their payout. They would have to be geniuses, to predict what PPP is doing after events like the 5/9 hack, because their best data would be out of date, so they would have to use all kinds of fancy regressions and tricks to figure out how that would work in such a volatile world economy. They definitely aren't economists, though, so I'll assume they sent the same nominal amount to everybody.
So what's the range on how much purchasing power this transaction gives people around the world? In 2018, the highest PPP number on the OECD list is Indonesia, with a PPP of 4,245.613140. The lowest PPP on the list is Lithuania, with a PPP of 0.457582. Lets see how this shakes out in each of these countries...
$ Per Capita Lithuania (0.46) Indonesia (4,245.61)
$355.53 $162.68 $1,509,442.84
$2,230.82 $1,020.78 $9,471,198.70
$8,252.65 $3,776.26 $35,037,559.28
$1,145.60 $524.20 $4,863,774.41
$7,188.22 $3,289.20 $30,518,401.29
$26,591.89 $12,167.97 $112,898,877.60
What would this cause? People might predict a lot of different things. The Yang gang people probably strong opinions on this. I have a bachelor's degree in economics, so I believe I can predict that most mainstream economists would predict the following...
In Lithuania, when they get a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, they probably raise a pint to F Society, then put the rest towards a house or car payment, or buy themselves something nice. Minor inflation would happen, probably starting at the pubs, and that would worry financial types, but it would not cause any kind of major economic catastrophe.
In Indonesia, where everybody becomes an asset millionaire overnight, they will probably have hyperinflation, mass social upheaval, and violence.
In conclusion...
TL;DR: What Darlene did last night with eCoin isn't actually possible with bitcoin, and the impact in America might not be as great as you think, but the impact would be much bigger in poorer parts of the world.
submitted by bubblesort to MrRobot [link] [comments]

Subreddit Stats: Monero top posts from 2019-01-07 to 2020-01-05 20:57 PDT

Period: 363.37 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 32255
Rate (per day) 2.75 88.32
Unique Redditors 413 4359
Combined Score 87276 146123

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 11193 points, 116 submissions: dEBRUYNE_1
    1. 'Monero in many respects is closer to what Bitcoin was intended to be than Bitcoin itself' - binaryFate (245 points, 61 comments)
    2. "It was a huge misstep that Satoshi’s original design has weak privacy. It set in stone an expectation that digital assets must have worse privacy than cash. Didn’t have to be this way." - Udi Wertheimer ‏ (215 points, 61 comments)
    3. 'Privacy should not be optional (and that’s why we made it a default).' - Firefox (214 points, 24 comments)
    4. Monero receives 'not a security' rating (best possible rating) by Crypto Rating Council (joint council created by Coinbase, Kraken, Circle/Poloniex, Bittrex, Paxos/itBit, Cumberland, Genesis and Grayscale) (214 points, 30 comments)
    5. GUI v0.14.1.0 'Boron Butterfly' (with Ledger Nano X and Trezor Model T support) released! (213 points, 243 comments)
    6. 'Apple CEO Tim Cook says privacy isn't a feature that should be built into products after the fact' (212 points, 39 comments)
    7. "you’ve been asking... we finally delivered! $XMR is live in [Exodus] Eden version 19.2.2" (202 points, 68 comments)
    8. The Bitcoin.com Exchange has listed Monero (190 points, 73 comments)
    9. Preliminary information thread regarding the scheduled protocol upgrade of November 30 (183 points, 141 comments)
    10. GUI v0.15.0.1 'Carbon Chamaeleon' released! (177 points, 278 comments)
  2. 3214 points, 41 submissions: SamsungGalaxyPlayer
    1. Some generous donor(s) topped off ALL of the proposals in funding required! (193 points, 38 comments)
    2. Tentative Monero 0.15 Release Schedule (162 points, 51 comments)
    3. Monero: Monero Adds Blockchain Pruning and Improves Transaction Efficiency (143 points, 23 comments)
    4. Logs from the 2.5 hr dev meeting on Monero's PoW (124 points, 124 comments)
    5. New logo for the Monero Community Workgroup YouTube channel, courtesy of u/anhdres! (119 points, 19 comments)
    6. Announcing the "Beware of Bitcoin" campaign for Mastering Monero (117 points, 98 comments)
    7. Preliminary support for Monero on BTCPayServer has been merged! (116 points, 19 comments)
    8. OpenBazaar dev call tomorrow discussing proof of concept for Monero integration (111 points, 21 comments)
    9. "Linking Anonymous Transactions via Remote Side-Channel Attacks" - Now-Fixed Network Analysis Attacks on Monero and Zcash (102 points, 50 comments)
    10. Monero added to Exodus mobile (100 points, 33 comments)
  3. 3157 points, 32 submissions: OsrsNeedsF2P
    1. Alright everybody pack it up. US Attorney General says encryption creates a security risk; if your wallet requires a password to unlock, you're doing acts that are used by terrorists, and it's time to stop. (317 points, 56 comments)
    2. What a shame Monero isn't included ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (254 points, 47 comments)
    3. Linus Tovalds believes processor vendors are approaching the end of Moore's Law, and optimization of code is going to be needed to increase performance (245 points, 61 comments)
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    5. IRS wants to subpoena Google, Apple & Microsoft to see if users have downloaded cryptocurrency related applications (190 points, 96 comments)
    6. Soon ™ (151 points, 55 comments)
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    8. IBM, MIT and Elliptic release world’s largest labeled dataset of bitcoin transactions to help identify "Bad Actors" (119 points, 22 comments)
    9. Celebrating 10 years of Tails (114 points, 5 comments)
    10. Former CTO of Purism, the developers of the Librem 5 Linux mobile phone, notes the PR momentum they got with GNOME, Matrix, and Monero (96 points, 12 comments)
  4. 2106 points, 29 submissions: ErCiccione
    1. Church Of Monero: Enough is enough - How the leader of the Church tried to fool the community to make look like the Church is organizing the Monero Konferenco and even adding his own Monero address on the flyer (166 points, 268 comments)
    2. [URGENT]Call for translators! - We have two days to submit as many translations as possible for the next release of the GUI wallet! We need your help! (123 points, 46 comments)
    3. Monero translators, we need you to make one final sprint! The code freeze is imminent. (112 points, 15 comments)
    4. 2 new projects joined the Monero Ecosystem! MoneroBox, a plug-and-play, zero-configuration Monero full node and Monero-Javascript, Monero wallet and daemon JavaScript API (107 points, 12 comments)
    5. PSA: We've posted an announcement regarding the potentially compromised CLI binaries on getmonero.org (101 points, 47 comments)
    6. New language for Monerujo: Esperanto! Will be available in next release (97 points, 6 comments)
    7. Monero Python - A comprehensive Python module for handling Monero cryptocurrency, has officially joined the Monero Ecosystem Project! (94 points, 12 comments)
    8. Getmonero.org is now available in German! (89 points, 16 comments)
    9. Getmonero.org updated: New user friendly download page, Welcome video in Brazilian Portuguese, 5 new merchants accepting Monero and more (76 points, 12 comments)
    10. My last proposal as coordinator of the Localization Workgroup has ended. A recap, some updates, plans for the future of the internationalization of Monero and a huge thanks (73 points, 22 comments)
  5. 1257 points, 14 submissions: xmrhaelan
    1. A response to the Reuters article about Monero (183 points, 28 comments)
    2. CoinDesk research shows Monero is #4 by Reddit post volume community metrics. Kudos to you all! (172 points, 57 comments)
    3. A response to Coinbase regarding their criticism of Monero’s approach to PoW security (171 points, 91 comments)
    4. Graphic idea for Boron Butterfly release, courtesy of Monero Outreach (170 points, 36 comments)
    5. PSA: Seeking Volunteer Reviewers for PoW RandomX (104 points, 55 comments)
    6. PSA: Mine Monero to Support the Network (77 points, 80 comments)
    7. Looking for ways to help, volunteer, or contribute to the Monero community? Look no further! (70 points, 20 comments)
    8. SWOT Analysis of Monero [draft] (59 points, 35 comments)
    9. Monero Konferenco Press Release (55 points, 9 comments)
    10. A Simplified Guide to Monero Wallets, from Monero Outreach (40 points, 9 comments)
  6. 1220 points, 9 submissions: geonic_
    1. Monero is second only to Bitcoin in terms of number of commits for the past 4 years! (269 points, 59 comments)
    2. Joe Weisenthal (Bloomberg): Until true anonymity (or near anonymity) is developed into Bitcoin, it's still incomplete, and not delivering on its promise. Without anonymity, there's no censorship resistance, and no store of value. (173 points, 38 comments)
    3. Nick Szabo puts Monero on an equal footing with Bitcoin: “deeply safe Bitcoin & Monero” (170 points, 41 comments)
    4. Chainalysis: Bitcoin is the most popular cryptocurrency accepted on dark markets, followed by Monero. Dark web spending to reach $1B this year. (150 points, 39 comments)
    5. BTC maximalist QOTD: “If you send me bitcoin, I would prefer if you used coinjoin first. I would prefer to not know the history of your sats. Don't put that liability on me. Thanks.” (142 points, 45 comments)
    6. Peter Todd wishes Bitcoin had perpetual inflation -- 2140 is much closer than you think (101 points, 89 comments)
    7. nopara73, creator of Wasabi Wallet: "Compared to privacy coins Wasabi is just a temporary hack. I think without Confidential Transactions, as the transaction fees grow, privacy will be priced out of Bitcoin's main chain." (95 points, 48 comments)
    8. Scott Stornetta, inventor of the first blockchain: “When I first read the Bitcoin white paper I thought [...] there’s no privacy at all here! What you’ve got is a completely traceable record of what’s going on.” @12:00 (68 points, 17 comments)
    9. Let's discuss: is Monero a privacy tool (i.e. Tor, CoinJoin, etc.) or a secure layer one protocol (https)? how aligned is it with Bitcoin ideologically (consider current vs original Bitcoin ideology)? is Monero's blockchain a temporary solution? (52 points, 27 comments)
  7. 1186 points, 12 submissions: hyc_symas
    1. RandomX Audit Status (148 points, 29 comments)
    2. RandomX Status Update (134 points, 82 comments)
    3. RandomX Audit Status - Final (130 points, 54 comments)
    4. RandomX Audit Status (116 points, 9 comments)
    5. RandomX Audit Status (110 points, 24 comments)
    6. RandomX testnet (99 points, 23 comments)
    7. Blockchain Growth stats (87 points, 26 comments)
    8. RandomX Auditor Selection (86 points, 47 comments)
    9. CCS: RandomX Audit now in Funding Required (78 points, 45 comments)
    10. RandomX Audit Funding Request (76 points, 14 comments)
  8. 1171 points, 13 submissions: Thunderosa
    1. Blend in the Crowd with Carbon Chamaeleon v0.15.0.0 (161 points, 25 comments)
    2. @monero Twitter banner (141 points, 25 comments)
    3. A little Christmas card for my favorite freaks. Happy Holidays! (136 points, 4 comments)
    4. Boron Butterfly ASCII (117 points, 23 comments)
    5. Monero Torch (111 points, 73 comments)
    6. Konferenco funding! (105 points, 19 comments)
    7. supportxmr-gui Update - Twice the features, half the size. All vanilla. (98 points, 15 comments)
    8. Happy 5th (70 points, 16 comments)
    9. Explore the expert speakers and important topics of Monero Konferenco 2019! (57 points, 11 comments)
    10. RandomX - Monero and Arweave to Validate New Proof-of-Work Algorithm (52 points, 12 comments)
  9. 1129 points, 14 submissions: pinkphloid
    1. [NEWS] CAKE WALLET for Monero has crossed 20,000 unique installs on iOS. (123 points, 69 comments)
    2. [PUBLIC BETA] Cake Wallet for Monero is now available on Android! (104 points, 48 comments)
    3. Going to the Monero Konferenco? Don’t miss MoneroTalk’s party Saturday night Casa De Monero! It’s THE party of the weekend! (99 points, 13 comments)
    4. [UPDATE] Cake Wallet version 3.1.7, now with Address book, Back-up to iCloud and other locations, and BCH is back in the exchange! (92 points, 70 comments)
    5. [UPDATE] Cake Wallet version 3.1.17 with Hidden balance mode plus other new useful features! (90 points, 16 comments)
    6. Cake Wallet is hiring! (88 points, 14 comments)
    7. If you like using Cake Wallet, please vote! Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼 (87 points, 20 comments)
    8. NYC Monero meetup featuring guest speaker Justin Ehrenhofer of XMR Community Work Group. - by Cake Wallet and Monero Talk (82 points, 10 comments)
    9. [UPDATE] Cake Wallet - Version 3.1.20 Black Forest Cake Edition (73 points, 23 comments)
    10. Cake Wallet (small news) - we have acquired the domain cakewallet.com! (67 points, 16 comments)
  10. 1054 points, 13 submissions: jman76358
    1. Monero receives A rating (194 points, 43 comments)
    2. Exodus Wallet now supports Monero (128 points, 38 comments)
    3. I tell a lot of people about Monero who don't know anything about crypto and they instantly get it. They ask me the same thing over and over, so why do people still use Bitcoin? (127 points, 119 comments)
    4. How trustyworthy is the Cake wallet for iOS? (80 points, 43 comments)
    5. Why don't other coin devs like talking about fungibility? They seem to shrug it off even though it's a necessary component to being a currency. (77 points, 85 comments)
    6. Any idea what's going on with the Official Monero Twitter page? (67 points, 33 comments)
    7. Should Quantum Resistance research for XMR be started soon? I would love to see what the great minds of the dev community could come up with ! (64 points, 55 comments)
    8. The End of Mainstream Privacy is Upon Us (62 points, 28 comments)
    9. Non-KYC exchanges coming to an end, even for small amounts. DEX with Monero as main coin when? (57 points, 18 comments)
    10. I find it funny that people think the gov doesn’t want people to use bitcoin, trust me , they’re estatic that people want to voluntarily be tracked and surveilled. (55 points, 45 comments)

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r/bitcoin recap - November 2017

Hi Bitcoiners!
I’m back with the eleventh monthly Bitcoin news recap.
For those unfamiliar, each day I pick out the most popularelevant/interesting stories in bitcoin and save them. At the end of the month I release them in one batch, to give you a quick (but not necessarily the best), memeless overview of what happened in bitcoin over the past month.
You can find recaps of the previous months on Bitcoinsnippets.com
A recap of Bitcoin in November 2017
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Where is the value that has not been discovered yet about Fusion

Everybody is looking for the next Ethereum run. We want to invest 100 bucks and it will be 400.000 usd. But have you ever thought what was the reason behind that run? If you really find out the next ETH run , you should have a solid understanding of why ETH performed very well.What was the reason behind it? Do you think it is just marketing? Absolutely not!
Lets examine, what is making big money…
Before ETH, it was all Bitcoin. It was the idea of blockchain etc, you know the story. Bitcoin was a transformation from fiat currency to digital currency, first of its kind. It was a revolution , so it made fortunes for that lucky bastards who hold on to their Bitcoins. I am jealous of them. It was a idealogical revolution.
But, something changed with the arrival of ETH. It was also a digital asset but the main thing that made that huge gains was the "Smart Contract" idea. It the transformed “digital asset” into something that can be transformed into any shape the user wants to . It was like invention of "digital check". It was a redefinition. It was also a idealogical revolution.
After BTC or ETH, we have seen so many replicas of them. Some even did performed better than BTC or ETH but they never succeed as Bitcoin or ETH did. Because they didn’t have anything original. The market rewarded the revolutionary idea while gave almost nothing to replicas, so to say.
Now we have Fusion, with a revolutionary idea.
People haven’t noticed it yet. Still , some ICO Reviewers took a look at it but didn’t see the hidden gem. They didn’t see the revolutionary idea behind it. Probably because they have IT background.
Let me explain to you,
Briefly, just like ETH transformed “digital assets” into “digital checks” that you can custom the date or the terms of execution. Fusion is transforming the “digital assets” into “ digital bonds” “ digital loans” “digital equities” “ digital discounted cash flows”. Simple is that. This is also an idealogical revolution.
Loans, bonds, Treasury bills , these instruments are all calculated and traded on a financial logic. That logic is “ Discounting the future cash flows into today and adding them up” . That’s the way how a bond, loan, bill or any financial asset is valued. If you don’t have a token, that naturally you can define it as a sum of “ discounted cash flow series” , that coin is worthless in Finance. This is what Ian Balina doesn’t know while shilling Wanchain. If he had spend long hours valuing bonds, cash flows like I did, you would have seen that Fusion has the right tool to do it.
While there are many competitors in the Cryptospace who want to replace the Financial Infrastructure of the CryptoFinance. Only Fusion’s token has the right Token to do so.
To be the CryptoFinancial infrastructure, one blockchain has to be interoperable. That is a must. It is necessary but not sufficient. The token should be defined and made properly.
What others don’t have the right token. Fusion has it!
Fusion token , is going to be such a way that, it will enable time or event triggers. Which is a must for fixing interest rates , Options, insurance events or almost any financial event. An option will always have a condition like “ If BTC trades above 10.000 usd” then I will have the right to but Bitcoin at @9.500 usd, for example. This is an event trigger.
Or lets talk about bonds, loans; I will try to keep it simple as I can.
Suppose , you will have 100 Usd in a years time ( Flow A). And another 100 usd in 2 years time( Flow B) , another 100 usd after 3 ( Flow C )years time. And also interest rates in the economy is %10 ( too high just for the sake of example)
Flow A will worth : 90 usd today. You have to discount 100 usd by %10 interest per year ( 1 year time trigger)
Flow B: will worth: 81 usd today. Because there are two period to discount. We discount them twice ( 2 year time trigger)
Flow C: will worth 74 usd today. As we discount 100 usd for 3 times
So totally a cash flow like this will worth 90+81+74=245 usd.
You can exchange this Cash Flow with 245 usd. These are the same things.
That what banks do when they give you the loan. They price it like this. They give you 245 usd, and expect 100 usd each year for the next 3 years.
Fusion token will naturally will have this discounted cashflow pricing mechanism embedded into its native token.
That’s why Fusion is so big.. It doesn’t matter what alliances you make or what connections you have. It doesn’t matter how many shiller say it is gonna X1000, if you don’t have the right tool. It is just hype!
Fusion is the CyrptoFinance token to rule all financial transactions.
If you look at Fusion’s WP, you will find out where there is a huge gap in finance. And also realize that ordinary tokens or coins can not fill that gap without having tokens specially designed for it.
https://medium.com/@barszen/where-is-the-value-that-has-not-been-discovered-yet-about-fusion-f3c3409182ce
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IRC Log from Ravencoin Open Developer Meeting - Aug 24, 2018

[14:05] <@wolfsokta> Hello Everybody, sorry we're a bit late getting started
[14:05] == block_338778 [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.72.214.222.226] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Here are the topics we would like to cover today • 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] == Chatturga changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: 2.0.4 Need to upgrade - What we have done to communicate to the community • Unique Assets • iOS Wallet • General Q&A
[14:06] <@wolfsokta> Daben, could you mention what we have done to communicate the need for the 2.0.4 upgrade?
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[14:07] <@wolfsokta> Others here are free to chime in where they saw the message first.
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[14:08] Whats up bois
[14:08] hi everyone
[14:08] hi hi
[14:08] <@wolfsokta> Discussing the 2.0.4 update and the need to upgrade.
[14:08] <@Chatturga> Sure. As most of you are aware, the community has been expressing concerns with the difficulty oscillations, and were asking that something be done to the difficulty retargeting. Many people submitted suggestions, and the devs decided to implement DGW.
[14:09] <@Tron> I wrote up a short description of why we're moving to a new difficulty adjustment. https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:09] <@Chatturga> I have made posts on discord, telegram, bitcointalk, reddit, and ravencointalk.org from testnet stages through current.
[14:10] <@Chatturga> If there are any other channels that can reach a large number of community members, I would love to have more.
[14:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Tron, that hasn't been shared to the community at large yet, but folks feel free to share it.
[14:10] When was this decision made and by whom and how?
[14:10] <@Chatturga> I have also communicated with the pool operators and exchanges about the update. Of all of the current pools, only 2 have not yet updated versions.
[14:11] <@wolfsokta> The decision was made by the developers through ongoing requests for weeks made by the community.
[14:12] <@wolfsokta> Evidence was provided by the community of the damages that could be caused to projects when the wild swings continue.
[14:12] So was there a meeting or vote? How can people get invited
[14:12] <@Tron> It was also informed by my conversations with some miners that recommended that we make the change before the coin died. They witnessed similar oscillations from which other coins never recovered.
[14:13] only two pools left to upgrade is good, what about the exchanges? Any word on how many of those have/have not upgraded?
[14:13] <@wolfsokta> We talked about here in our last meeting Bruce_. All attendees were asked if they had any questions or concerns.
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[14:13] sup roshii long time no see
[14:14] <@Chatturga> Bittrex, Cryptopia, and IDCM have all either updated or have announced their intent to update.
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[14:15] sup russki
[14:15] what's the status here?
[14:15] I don’t think that was at all clear from the last dev meeting
[14:15] I can’t be the only person who didn’t understand it
[14:15] <@wolfsokta> Are there any suggestions on how to communicate the need to upgrade even further? I am concerned that others might also not understand.
[14:17] I’m not sold on the benefit and don’t understand the need for a hard fork — I think it’s a bad precedent to simply go rally exchanges to support a hard fork with little to no discussion
[14:17] so just to note, the exchanges not listed as being upgraded or have announced their intention to upgrade include: qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge (all with over $40k usd volume past 24 hours according to coinmarketcap)
[14:18] <@wolfsokta> I don't agree that there was little or no discussion at all.
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> Looking back at our meeting notes from two weeks ago "fork" was specifically asked about by BrianMCT.
[14:19] If individual devs have the power to simple decide to do something as drastic as a hard fork and can get exchanges and miners to do it that’s got a lot of issues with centralization
[14:19] <@wolfsokta> It had been implemented on testnet by then and discussed in the community for several weeks before that.
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[14:19] howdy
[14:19] Everything I’ve seen has been related to the asset layer
[14:19] I have to agree with Bruce_, though I wasn't able to join the last meeting here. That said I support the fork
[14:20] Which devs made this decision to do a fork and how was it communicated?
[14:20] well mostly the community made the decision
[14:20] Consensus on a change is the heart of bitcoin development and I believe the devs have done a great job building that consensus
[14:20] a lot of miners were in uproar about the situation
[14:20] <@wolfsokta> All of the devs were supporting the changes. It wasn't done in isolation at all.
[14:21] This topic has been a huge discussion point within the RVN mining community for quite some time
[14:21] the community and miners have been having issues with the way diff is adjusted for quite some time now
[14:21] Sure I’m well aware of that -
[14:21] Not sold on the benefits of having difficulty crippled by rented hashpower?
[14:21] The community saw a problem. The devs got together and talked about a solution and implemented a solution
[14:21] I’m active in the community
[14:22] So well aware of the discussions on DGW etc
[14:22] Hard fork as a solution to a problem community had with rented hashpower (nicehash!!) sounds like the perfect decentralized scenario!
[14:23] hard forks are very dangerous
[14:23] mining parties in difficulty drops are too
[14:23] <@wolfsokta> Agreed, we want to keep them to an absolute minimum.
[14:23] But miners motivation it’s the main vote
[14:24] What would it take to convince you that constantly going from 4 Th/s to 500 Gh/s every week is worse for the long term health of the coin than the risk of a hard fork to fix it?
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[14:24] This hardfork does include the asset layer right? if so why is it being delayed in implementation?
[14:24] <@wolfsokta> Come back Tron!
[14:24] coudl it have been implement through bip9 voting?
[14:24] also hard fork is activated by the community! that's a vote thing!
[14:24] @mrsushi to give people time to upgrade their wallet
[14:25] @under, it would be much hard to keep consensus with a bip9 change
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> We investigated that closely Under.
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[14:25] <@wolfsokta> See Tron's post for more details about that.
[14:25] <@spyder_> Hi Tron
[14:25] <@wolfsokta> https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-dark-gravity-wave-1da0a71657f7
[14:25] Sorry about that. Computer went to sleep.
[14:26] I'm wrong
[14:26] 2 cents. the release deadline of october 31st puts a bit of strain on getting code shipped. (duh). but fixing daa was important to the current health of the coin, and was widely suppported by current mining majority commuity. could it have been implemented in a different manner? yes . if we didnt have deadlines
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[14:27] sushi this fork does not include assets. it's not being delayed though, we're making great progress for an Oct 31 target
[14:28] I don’t see the urgency but my vote doesn’t matter since my hash power is still CPUs
[14:28] <@wolfsokta> We're seeing the community get behind the change as well based on the amount of people jumping back in to mine through this last high difficulty phase.
[14:28] So that will be another hardfork?
[14:28] the fork does include the asset code though set to activate on oct 30th
[14:28] yes
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Yes, it will based on the upgrade voting through the BIP9 process.
[14:29] I wanted to ask about burn rates from this group: and make a proposal.
[14:29] we're also trying hard to make it the last for awhile
[14:29] Can you clear up the above — there will be this one and another hard fork?
[14:29] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we could discuss that under towards the end of the meeting.
[14:30] If this one has the asset layer is there something different set for October
[14:30] <@wolfsokta> Yes, there will be another hard fork on October 31st once the voting process is successful.
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> The code is in 2.0.4 now and assets are active on testnet
[14:31] Bruce, the assets layer is still being worked on. Assets is active on mainnet. So in Oct 31 voting will start. and if it passes, the chain will fork.
[14:31] this one does NOT include assets for mainnet Bruce -- assets are targeted for Oct 31
[14:31] not***
[14:31] not active****
[14:31] correct me if I'm wrong here, but if everyone upgrades to 2.0.4 for this fork this week, the vote will automatically pass on oct 31st correct? nothing else needs to be done
[14:31] Will if need another download or does this software download cover both forks?
[14:31] <@wolfsokta> Correct Urgo
[14:32] thats how the testnet got activated and this one shows "asset activation status: waiting until 10/30/2018 20:00 (ET)"
[14:32] Will require another upgrade before Oct 31
[14:32] thank you for the clarification wolfsokta
[14:32] <@wolfsokta> It covers both forks, but we might have additional bug fixes in later releases.
[14:32] So users DL one version now and another one around October 30 which activates after that basically?
[14:33] I understand that, but I just wanted to make it clear that if people upgrade to this version for this fork and then don't do anything, they are also voting for the fork on oct 31st
[14:33] Oh okay — one DL?
[14:33] Bruce, Yes.
[14:33] Ty
[14:33] well there is the issue that there maybe some further consensus bugs dealing with the pruneability of asset transactions that needs to be corrected between 2.0.4 and mainnet. so i would imagine that there will be further revisions required to upgrade before now and october 31
[14:33] @under that is correct.
[14:34] I would highly recommend bumping the semver up to 3.0.0 for the final pre 31st release so that the public know to definitely upgrade
[14:34] @under +1
[14:35] out of curiosity, have there been many bugs found with the assets from the version released in july for testnet (2.0.3) until this version? or is it solely a change to DGW?
[14:35] <@wolfsokta> That's not a bad idea under.
[14:35] <@spyder_> @under good idea
[14:35] @urgo. Bugs are being found and fixed daily.
[14:35] Any time the protocol needs to change, there would need to be a hard fork (aka upgrade). It is our hope that we can activate feature forks through the BIP process (as we are doing for assets). Mining pools and exchanges will need to be on the newest software at the point of asset activation - should the mining hash power vote for assets.
[14:35] blondfrogs: gotcha
[14:35] There have been bugs found (and fixed). Testing continues. We appreciate all the bug reports you can give us.
[14:36] <@wolfsokta> Yes! Thank you all for your help in the community.
[14:37] (pull requests with fixes and test coverage would be even better!)
[14:37] asset creation collision is another major issue. current unfair advantage or nodes that fore connect to mining pools will have network topologies that guarantee acceptance. I had discussed the possibility of fee based asset creation selection and i feel that would be a more equal playing ground for all users
[14:38] *of nodes that force
[14:38] <@wolfsokta> What cfox said, we will always welcome development help.
[14:38] So just to make sure everyone know. When assets is ready to go live on oct 31st. Everyone that wants to be on the assets chain without any problems will have to download the new binary.
[14:39] <@wolfsokta> The latest binary.
[14:39] under: already in the works
[14:39] excellent to hear
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[14:39] <@wolfsokta> Okay, we've spent a bunch of time on that topic and I think it was needed. Does anybody have any other suggestions on how to get the word out even more?
[14:40] maybe preface all 2.0.X releases as pre-releases... minimize the number of releases between now and 3.0 etc
[14:41] <@wolfsokta> Bruce_ let's discuss further offline.
[14:41] wolfsokta: which are the remaining two pools that need to be upgraded? I've identified qbtc, upbit, and cryptobridge as high volume exchanges that haven't said they were going to do it yet
[14:41] so people can help reach out to them
[14:41] f2pool is notoriously hard to contact
[14:41] are they on board?
[14:42] <@wolfsokta> We could use help reaching out to QBTC and Graviex
[14:42] I can try to contact CB if you want?
[14:42] <@Chatturga> The remaining pools are Ravenminer and PickAxePro.
[14:42] <@Chatturga> I have spoken with their operators, the update just hasnt been applied yet.
[14:42] ravenminer is one of the largest ones too. If they don't upgrade that will be a problem
[14:42] okay good news
[14:42] (PickAxePro sounds like a Ruby book)
[14:43] I strongly feel like getting the word out on ravencoin.org would be beneficial
[14:44] that site is sorely in need of active contribution
[14:44] Anyone can volunteer to contribute
[14:44] <@wolfsokta> Okay, cfox can you talk about the status of unique assets?
[14:44] sure
[14:45] <@wolfsokta> I'll add website to the end of our topics.
[14:45] code is in review and will be on the development branch shortly
[14:45] would it make sense to have a page on the wiki (or somewhere else) that lists the wallet versions run by pools & exchanges?
[14:45] will be in next release
[14:45] furthermore, many sites have friendly link to the standard installers for each platform, if the site linked to the primary installers for each platform to reduce github newb confusion that would be good as well
[14:46] likely to a testnetv5 although that isn't settled
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Thanks cfox.
[14:46] <@wolfsokta> Are there any questions about unique assets, and how they work?
[14:47] after the # are there any charachters you cant use?
[14:47] will unique assets be constrained by the asset alphanumeric set?
[14:47] ^
[14:47] <@Chatturga> @Urgo there is a page that tracks and shows if they have updated, but it currently doesnt show the actual version that they are on.
[14:47] a-z A-Z 0-9
[14:47] <@Chatturga> https://raven.wiki/wiki/Exchange_notifications#Pools
[14:47] There are a few. Mostly ones that mess with command-line
[14:47] you'll be able to use rpc to do "issueunique MATRIX ['Neo','Tank','Tank Brother']" and it will create three assets for you (MATRIX#Neo, etc.)
[14:47] @cfox - No space
[14:48] @under the unique tags have an expanded set of characters allowed
[14:48] Chatturga: thank you
[14:48] @UJP yes there are some you can't use -- I'll try to post gimmie a sec..
[14:49] Ok. Thank you much!
[14:49] 36^36 assets possible and 62^62 uniques available per asset?
[14:49] <@spyder_> std::regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$");
[14:50] regex UNIQUE_TAG_CHARACTERS("^[[email protected]$%&*()[\\]{}<>_.;?\\\\:]+$")
[14:50] oh thanks Mark
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> Okay, next up. I want to thank everybody for helping test the iOS wallet release.
[14:51] <@wolfsokta> We are working with Apple to get the final approval to post it to the App Store
[14:51] @under max asset length is 30, including unique tag
[14:51] Does the RVN wallet have any other cryptos or just RVN?
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[14:52] will the android and ios source be migrated to the ravenproject github?
[14:52] I've been adding beta test users. I've added about 80 new users in the last few days.
[14:52] <@wolfsokta> Just RVN, and we want to focus on adding the asset support to the wallet.
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[14:53] <@wolfsokta> Yes, the code will also be freely available on GitHub for both iOS and Android. Thank you Roshii!
[14:53] Would you consider the iOS wallet to be a more secure place for one's holdings than say, a Mac connected to the internet?
[14:53] will there be a chance of a more user freindly wallet with better graphics like the iOS on PC?
[14:53] the android wallet is getting updated for DGW, correct?
[14:53] <@wolfsokta> That has come up in our discussion Pizza.
[14:54] QT framework is pretty well baked in and is cross platform. if we get some qt gurus possibly
[14:54] Phones are pretty good because the wallet we forked uses the TPM from modern phones.
[14:54] Most important is to write down and safely store your 12 word seed.
[14:54] TPM?
[14:54] <@wolfsokta> A user friendly wallet is one of our main goals.
[14:55] TPM == Trusted Platform Module
[14:55] Ahhh thanks
[14:55] just please no electron apps. they are full of security holes
[14:55] <@spyder_> It is whats makes your stuffs secure
[14:55] not fit for crypto
[14:55] under: depends on who makes it
[14:55] The interface screenshots I've seen look like Bread/Loaf wallet ... I assume that's what was forked from
[14:55] ;)
[14:56] <@wolfsokta> @roshii did you see the question about the Android wallet and DGW?
[14:56] Yes, it was a fork of breadwallet. We like their security.
[14:56] chromium 58 is the last bundled electron engine and has every vuln documented online by google. so unless you patch every vuln.... methinks not
[14:56] Agreed, great choice
[14:57] <@wolfsokta> @Under, what was your proposal?
[14:58] All asset creation Transactions have a mandatory OP_CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY of 1 year(or some agreed upon time interval), and the 500 RVN goes to a multisig devfund, run by a custodial group. We get: 1) an artificial temporary burn, 2) sustainable community and core development funding for the long term, after OSTK/Medici 3) and the reintroduction of RVN supply at a fixed schedule, enabling the removal of the 42k max cap of total As
[14:58] *im wrong on the 42k figure
[14:58] <@wolfsokta> Interesting...
[14:59] <@wolfsokta> Love to hear others thoughts.
[14:59] Update: I posted a message on the CryptoBridge discord and one of their support members @stepollo#6276 said he believes the coin team is already aware of the fork but he would forward the message about the fork over to them right now anyway
[14:59] Ifs 42 million assets
[14:59] yep.
[15:00] I have a different Idea. If the 500 RVN goes to a dev fund its more centralized. The 500 RVN should go back into the unmined coins so miners can stay for longer.
[15:01] *without a hardfork
[15:01] <@wolfsokta> lol
[15:01] that breaks halving schedule, since utxos cant return to an unmined state.
[15:01] @UJP back into coinbase is interesting. would have to think about how that effects distribution schedule, etc.
[15:01] only way to do that would be to dynamicaly grow max supply
[15:02] and i am concerned already about the max safe integer on various platforms at 21 billion
[15:02] js chokes on ravencoin already
[15:02] <@wolfsokta> Other thoughts on Under's proposal? JS isn't a real language. ;)
[15:02] Well Bitcoin has more than 21 bn Sats
[15:02] Is there somebody who wants to volunteer to fix js.
[15:02] hahaha
[15:03] I honestly would hate for the coins to go to a dev fund. It doesn't seem like Ravencoin to me.
[15:03] Yep, but we're 21 billion x 100,000,000 -- Fits fine in a 64-bit integer, but problematic for some languages.
[15:03] <@wolfsokta> Thanks UJP
[15:04] <@wolfsokta> We're past time but I would like to continue if you folks are up for it.
[15:04] Yeah no coins can go anywhere centrality contorted like a dev fund cause that would mean someone has to run it and the code can’t decide that so it’s destined to break
[15:05] currently and long term with out the financial backing of development then improvements and features will be difficult. we are certainly thankful for our current development model. but if a skunkworks project hits a particular baseline of profitability any reasonable company would terminate it
[15:05] Yes let’s contibue for sure
[15:05] the alternative to a dev fund in my mind would be timelocking those funds back to the issuers change address
[15:06] But we can’t have dev built in to the code — it has to be open source like Bitcoin and monero and Litecoin - it’s got drawbacks but way more advantages- it’s the best model
[15:06] Dev funding
[15:06] i highly reccommend not reducing the utility of raven by removing permanently the supply
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[15:07] timelocking those funds accompllishes the same sacrifice
[15:07] @under timelocking is interesting too
[15:07] How exactly does timelocking work?
[15:07] <@wolfsokta> ^
[15:07] I mean you could change the price of assets with the Block reward halfing.
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[15:08] funds cant be spent from an address until a certain time passes
[15:08] but in a what magical fairy land do people continue to work for free forever. funding development is a real issue... as much as some might philosphically disagree. its a reality
[15:08] You’d still need a centralized party to decide how to distribute the funds
[15:08] even unofficially blockstream supports bitcoin devs
[15:08] on chain is more transparent imho
[15:09] == Tron_ [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.173.241.144.77] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[15:09] @UJP yes there are unlimited strategies. one factor that I think is v important is giving application developers a way to easily budget for projects which leads to flat fees
[15:09] If the project is a success like many of believe it will be, I believe plenty of people will gladly done to a dev fund. I don't think the 500 should be burned.
[15:09] *donate
[15:09] centralized conservatorship, directed by community voting process
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[15:10] <@wolfsokta> Thanks Under, that's an interesting idea that we should continue to discuss in the community. You also mentioned the existing website.
[15:10] It would need to be something where everyone with a QT has a vote
[15:10] think his computer went to sleep again :-/
[15:10] I agree UJP
[15:10] with the website
[15:10] No that’s ico jargon — any development fund tied to code would have to be centralized and would therefor fail
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] ^
[15:11] dashes model for funding seems to be pretty decentralized
[15:11] community voting etc
[15:11] Once you have a dev fund tied to code then who gets to run it? Who mediates disputes?
[15:11] oh well another discussion
[15:11] Dash has a CEO
[15:12] <@wolfsokta> Yeah, let's keep discussing in the community spaces.
[15:12] Dash does have a good model. It's in my top ten.
[15:12] having the burn go to a dev fund is absolute garbage
[15:12] These dev chats should be more target than broad general discussions — changing the entire nature of the coin and it’s economics is best discussed in the RIPs or other means
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> Yup, let's move on.
[15:13] just becuase existing implementation are garbage doesnt mean that all possible future governance options are garbage
[15:13] <@wolfsokta> To discussing the website scenario mentioned by under.
[15:13] the website needs work. would be best if it could be migrated to github as well.
[15:13] What about this: Anyone can issue a vote once the voting feature has been added, for a cost. The vote would be what the coins could be used for.
[15:14] features for the site that need work are more user friendly links to binaries
[15:14] <@wolfsokta> We investigated how bitcoin has their website in Github to make it easy for contributors to jump in.
[15:14] that means active maintenance of the site instead of its current static nature
[15:15] <@wolfsokta> I really like how it's static html, which makes it super simple to host/make changes.
[15:15] the static nature isn’t due to interface it’s due to no contributors
[15:15] no contribution mechanism has been offered
[15:15] github hosted would allow that
[15:16] We used to run the Bitcoin website from the foundation & the GitHub integration seemed to cause some issues
[15:16] its doesnt necessarily have to be hosted by github but the page source should be on github and contributions could easily be managed and tracked
[15:17] for example when a new release is dropped, the ability for the downlaods section to have platform specific easy links to the general installers is far better for general adoption than pointing users to github releases
[15:18] <@wolfsokta> How do people currently contribute to the existing website?
[15:18] they dont?
[15:18] We did that and it was a complete pain to host and keep working — if someone wants to volunteer to do that work hey can surely make the website better and continually updated — but they could do that in Wordpress also
[15:19] I’d say keep an eye out for volunteers and maybe we can get a group together who can improve the site
[15:19] == digitalvap0r-xmr [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.255.25.134] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[15:19] And they can decide best method
[15:20] I host the source for the explorer on github and anyone can spin it up instantly on a basic aws node. changes can be made to interface etc, and allow for multilingual translations which have been offered by some community members
[15:20] there are models that work. just saying it should be looked at
[15:20] i gotta run thank you all for your contributions
[15:20] <@wolfsokta> I feel we should explore the source for the website being hosted in GitHub and discuss in our next dev meeting.
[15:21] <@Chatturga> Thanks Under!
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[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Thanks, we also need to drop soon.
[15:21] There is no official site so why care. Someone will do better than the next if RVN is worth it anyway. That's already the case.
[15:21] <@wolfsokta> Let's do 10 mins of open Q&A
[15:22] <@wolfsokta> Go...
[15:23] <@Chatturga> Beuller?
[15:24] No questions ... just a comment that the devs and community are great and I'm happy to be a part of it
[15:24] I think everyone moved to discord. I'll throw this out there. How confident is the dev team that things will be ready for oct 31st?
[15:24] <@wolfsokta> Alright! Thanks everybody for joining us today. Let's plan to get back together as a dev group in a couple of weeks.
[15:25] thanks block!
[15:25] <@wolfsokta> Urgo, very confident
[15:25] Please exclude trolls from discord who havent read the whitepaper
[15:25] great :)
[15:25] "things" will be ready..
[15:25] Next time on discord right?
[15:25] woah why discord?
[15:25] some of the suggestions here are horrid
[15:25] this is better less point
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[15:25] Assets are working well on testnet. Plan is to get as much as we can safely test by Sept 30 -- this includes dev contributions. Oct will be heavy testing and making sure it is safe.
[15:26] people
[15:26] <@wolfsokta> Planning on same time, same IRC channel.
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[15:26] @xmr any in particular?
[15:27] (or is "here" discord?)
[15:27] Cheers - Tron
[15:27] "Cheers - Tron" - Tron
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IRC Log from Ravencoin Open Developer Meeting - Sept 21, 2018

[14:04] Topics for the chat today: 1. Bitcoin double spend bug. 2. Max reorg depth changes.
[14:04] I think that will take most of the hour. We'll then open it up for questions.
[14:05] == blondfrogs changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: Topics for the chat today: 1. Bitcoin double spend bug. 2. Max reorg depth changes.
[14:05] == wolfsokta changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: Bitcoin Bug/Max Reorg
[14:05] Hi! I'm Forest... Forest Gump, do you want a ravencoin?
[14:05] Hi all
[14:05] == blondfrogs changed the topic of #ravencoin-dev to: Topics for the chat today: 1. Bitcoin double spend bug. 2. Max reorg depth changes.
[14:05] Topic fight
[14:05] as far as i know the double spending bug could inflate the bitcoin supply right?
[14:05] like make more bitcoin that possible
[14:05] than
[14:06] is this correct?
[14:06] it's more that the danger is crashing all the nodes
[14:07] 1. Raven is also affected by the bitcoin bug. Which is what we want to discus.
[14:08] blondfrogs can you tell us what you're planning to address the bug?
[14:08] So, we have updated our codebase to have the bitcoin bug fix. This is going to be implemented in 2.0.4.1. We are currently making binaries and should have an annoucment by end of day today to the community. We are urging the community to update their wallets to 2.0.4.1
[14:09] ...
[14:10] BTC patched it though. Wouldnt the "same" patch work for RVN?
[14:10] Spot on!
[14:10] No, it would not since we forked a while back.
[14:10] Exactly. We patched it in the same way but we still need to get our wallets that contain the fix out so the community can upgrade
[14:10] is there a todo somewhere to add auto-update functionality to the wallet?
[14:11] So, we need to get the word out to get people to update.
[14:11] YES
[14:12] How does the patch affect future LN implementation?
[14:12] Any changes that were made to bitcoin to get LN to integrate would need to be merged into Raven.
[14:12] Any risks?
[14:13] Fair comment.
[14:13] We would love any developers that are interested in doing that work to jump in.
[14:13] The fix is just changing a 'false' to 'true' to tell the node to scan for dup tx in the block.
[14:14] So the auto update feature implementation is being discussed through OS stores, as a second option for wallet download ... @lsji07
[14:14] The comment in the Bitcoin code said it was slow to scan the transactions. So it will be a bit slower.
[14:14] slower is better than being vulnerable
[14:16] Agreed
[14:16] lets talk about the maxreorg depth, people in the discord have been asking "why isnt it lower" what do you guys think
[14:16] once we finish with the first one we will russk
[14:16] k
[14:16] no russk
[14:16] lol
[14:17] I saw it went back to 60.
[14:17] 2.0.4.1 will be built and uploaded today.
[14:18] Once the binaries are ready, Ill get it out to all of the social sites, exchanges, and pool operators
[14:18] We changed the voting date for 2.0.4.1
[14:19] So it will not interfere with 2.1 release.
[14:19] We would prefer that 2.0.4 and 2.0.4.1 assets do not activate as they're not 100% compatible with 2.1 assets.
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[14:20] We also need the communities help to get people to upgrade to 2.0.4.1
[14:20] The protocol layer for assets changed just a bit.
[14:20] Unique assets can be 31 chars instead of 30
[14:20] We saved a byte on asset creation by not encoding the IPFS length twide.
[14:20] We saved a byte on asset creation by not encoding the IPFS length twice.
[14:21] ipfs will be implemented natively later right?
[14:21] YEs
[14:21] I hope so.
[14:21] awesome
[14:21] So vulnerabilty patch first, then the asset layer. Same 31/10 date though for starting asset activation on 2.1
[14:21] It makes sense for us to integrate with IPFS when messaging is available.
[14:22] Yes lsji07
[14:22] Until then, the IPFS hashes will be embedded and we'll "pin" the files so they stay around.
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[14:23] do you guys have anyone working on RSK yet?
[14:23] hi
[14:23] sup
[14:23] Any other questions about 2.0.4.1?
[14:23] @russk Thats a great question for the open QA at the end :)
[14:23] K, let's cover the Max Re-Org depth changes.
[14:24] No, but it can be implemented with RVN the same way as Bitcoin - as a side chain.
[14:24] Tron posted an article that discusses the options that were discussed.
[14:24] https://medium.com/@tronblack/ravencoin-building-the-immune-system-23d077b65f71
[14:24] Hope you all had a chance to read through it.
[14:25] im still voting for the lake of fire method
[14:25] I think the lake of fire was my favorite too.
[14:25] Agreed
[14:25] I'm with ya russk
[14:25] I have sourced the lake part.
[14:25] We found a burning pit in Utah, but no lake.
[14:25] aw
[14:26] Must try harder.
[14:26] The code has moved to 60 blocks.
[14:26] The reason for 55 was to have "buffer"
[14:26] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darvaza_gas_crater
[14:26] I would love to hear thoughts about the solution being proposed.
[14:26] Buffer isn't needed if we get all the >= and the counts right.
[14:27] Or questions/suggestions.
[14:27] Exchanges don't go by time, but by confirmations. Confirmations are the block count, so if it can't re-org at 60, then 60 should be a safe level.
[14:27] Plus 60 is easier to explain to people than 55 because the timing is in line with bitcoin.
[14:27] It might be lower, but we opted for a more conservative number.
[14:27] The downside risk is a chain split on an honest/honest split.
[14:28] With years of data, we could look at all the chain splits and determine the probability of a long split.
[14:29] For instance, a network cable between China and the rest of the world is cut, and then comes back on line later.
[14:29] I think the code decision is sound. The only way a chain split would occur is splitting the hardware links around the world. Wartime scenario?
[14:29] say if 50% of nodes upgrade to the new maxreorg client and someone tries to reorg the chain there will be a big split right?
[14:30] Yes.
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[14:30] Most exchanges today give access to bitcoin funds long before 6 confirmations, so you wouldn't expect exchanges to require 60 confirms either, correct?
[14:30] Although that risk exists primarily between now and early Nov. After that, we hope 90%+ will be on the asset aware software.
[14:31] which is why you all need to upgrade your wallets and vote for the correct chain and tell your friends.
[14:31] got it, 2.1 will be the actual client for the hardfork, correct?
[14:31] The exchanges are welcome to take on additional risk. The risk decreases as the hashpower goes up.
[14:31] 2.1 is the planned version number.
[14:32] also, say if i am still on 2.0.3-4 will i still be able to use assets after the hardfork?
[14:32] how incompatible are the clients
[14:32] At that point 2.0.3-4 clients would be on a different fork I believe.
[14:34] any node with version < 2.1 will fork when assets are active.
[14:34] Assets activate when 90% of the blocks are mined with 2.1+
[14:34] We'll work hard to ensure exchanges and pools have updated to 2.0.4.1 first and then to 2.1 when it's available.
[14:34] awesome
[14:35] But we want the community to help get the word out as well. Raven needs you!
[14:35] We need a raven with a US Army hat guy to get people to update.
[14:35] lol
[14:36] Ill ping Pathfinder and get him on it.
[14:36] Only you can help assure upgrades
[14:36] Any other questions/comments/suggestions on Max Re-Org?
[14:37] So just to be clear- the max reorg is included in 2.0.4.1 of not?
[14:37] No, it is not.
[14:37] Only the bitcoin bug fix is in 2.0.4.1
[14:38] Okay, open Q&A then!
[14:38] Russk go!
[14:38] lol
[14:39] when are you guys going to implement native bech32?
[14:39] Is there time to talk about asset_name token burning? There has been a proposal for RPC commands to let an asset_token owner burn them in order to clean out unwanted asset names and reduce UTXO. That appears to be easy and relatively uncontroversial.
[14:39] also anyone working on RSK yet
[14:40] Bech 32 was deprecated.
[14:40] Honestly don't know much about it.
[14:41] is the block size going to increase to 2mb when we fork?
[14:41] russk tell me more.
[14:41] I thought it was the new btc address format...
[14:41] it is
[14:41] it allows native segwit addresses
[14:41] https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/mastebip-0173.mediawiki
[14:41] Ravencoin forked in the middle of implementation of segwit, it's planned to be added with Segwit.
[14:41] Raven is already 2mb
[14:41] really?
[14:42] i thought it was 1mb
[14:42] It's part of the vote coming up on Oct 31
[14:42] ah ok
[14:42] It's in there, but BIP9 has to activate first.
[14:42] Yes. We've also tested that it is possible to fill a 2MB block
[14:42] Or rather BIP9 voting will activate RIP2 which will increase the block size.
[14:43] https://i.imgflip.com/2igmj7.jpg
[14:43] do you guys have a timeframe of when segwit is being fully added?
[14:43] I want you. Nice one.
[14:44] and for when they have done it, you can use https://i.imgflip.com/2igmml.jpg
[14:44] lol
[14:44] Wow, we have a meme master in the community!
[14:44] @HansSchmidt any new code would be appreciated, if you have the ability to code the rpc called please submit an PR to the repo
[14:44] I can't even open Photoshop that fast
[14:45] We are talking about adding anti-spam features into the wallet.
[14:45] Basically, if somebody sends an asset to an address that has been already used it could be an unwanted asset.
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[14:46] One more meme from the master: ttps://i.imgflip.com/2igmtd.jpg
[14:46] https://i.imgflip.com/2igmtd.jpg
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[14:46] Understood. I'll look at it, but I'm more python than C
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[14:47] Perfect
[14:47] That would still be great Hans.
[14:47] im looking into implementing RSK
[14:48] @HansSchmidt You don't need C
[14:48] it doesnt look crazy hard, just some java stuff
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[14:48] c++
[14:48] more like c--
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[14:49] when ravencoin client coded in assembly
[14:49] == Zaaaab [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.211.21.7] has quit [Client Quit]
[14:49] I was referring to @blondfrog new RPCs
[14:49] == Zaaaab [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.211.21.7] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:49] I'd like to help with RSK
[14:49] We would love you to help!
[14:50] if you know java you can probably do it @vap0r
[14:50] https://github.com/rsksmart
[14:50] fork rskj and bitcoinj
[14:50] Thanks
[14:51] RSK would be extremely useful for bond-like implementations
[14:51] assets would probably mess RSK up tho
[14:51] Im off now thanks for the hard work guys!
[14:52] It might be a fun merge for sure.
[14:52] Thanks for joining!
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[14:52] the bitcoinj client doesnt look crazy hard to port over to ravencoin
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[14:52] you would just need to change the diff algo to DGW and make an x16r java implementation
[14:53] It shouldn't be too hard.
[14:53] Which channel can I disclose a vulnerability?
[14:53] is it the bitcoin double spend vulnerability?
[14:53] or something new
[14:53] DM Chatturga on discord.
[14:53] == dudeman [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.65.23.49.44] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[14:53] No, on Testnet
[14:53] ahh ok yea dm chatturga
[14:54] Either way, you can send it to me and I can make surfe it gets where it needs to go.
[14:54] sure*
[14:54] Do you have a suggested fix?
[14:54] Not currently, need more time
[14:55] Just give Chatturga a ping, and we can talk about it
[14:55] Thank you vap0r!
[14:55] i am extremely curious to see what this vulnerability is
[14:55] Does not impact supply
[14:56] assets related?
[14:56] On second thought vap0r just share it here if you don't mind.
[14:56] this is testnet so its meant to be bug tested
[14:57] If it's a testnet only bug then please feel free to share.
[14:58] We're now on pins and needles vap0r.
[14:58] :)
[14:59] Any other questions while we wait?
[14:59] Or another meme? ;)
[15:00] Do you all like these open developer meetings?
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[15:00] yea they are nice
[15:00] no
[15:00] lol
[15:00] hahaha!!! to bad blondy
[15:00] if they were on discord it would be nicer
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[15:01] lol
[15:01] there he goes
[15:01] Vap0r left...
[15:01] +1 on Discord
[15:01] Is anyone using testnet6 yet? I built develop2 branch to get 2.0.6 to play with, but had to modify it back to testnet5 in order to be useful. Even on testnet5 there has been only one person sometimes cpu mining.
[15:01] Is anyone using testnet6 yet? I built develop2 branch to get 2.0.6 to play with, but had to modify it back to testnet5 in order to be useful. Even on testnet5 there has been only one person sometimes cpu mining.
[15:01] Is anyone using testnet6 yet? I built develop2 branch to get 2.0.6 to play with, but had to modify it back to testnet5 in order to be useful.
[15:01] We're setting up seed nodes for testnet6.
[15:02] Seed nodes are being updated.
[15:02] wierd echo...
[15:02] Love that you're pulling the code Hans!
[15:02] im not on testnetv6 yet, i could compile the binaries and then we could play around @hans
[15:02] We expect testnet6 consensus rules to be the final ones.
[15:03] when are we getting testnetv20?
[15:03] lol
[15:03] We're working on it russk
[15:03] cant wait
[15:04] how can I find the seed nodes? they're added into the code updates?
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[15:04] We're done, thanks everybody.
[15:04] russk -- 14 mistakes from now.
[15:04] Roshii is done. :)
[15:04] Did I see a request for one more meme?
[15:04] https://i.imgflip.com/2igof3.jpg
[15:04] one last question, when moon?
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[15:05] lol @chatt
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[15:05] Seed nodes are behind 3 DNS entries
[15:05] Thanks all. Tron out.
[15:05] == Tron_ [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.173.241.144.77] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[15:05] Peace
[15:06] == blondfrogs [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.91.207.175.238] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[15:06] == Raven-Fam|1781 [[email protected]/web/freenode/ip.181.215.110.161] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[15:06] Peace
[15:06] == HansSchmidt [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.239.232.46] has left #ravencoin-dev []
[15:06] 3 domains Ravencoin.org, Ravencoin.com, bitactivate.com
[15:06] 4 dns entries per domain so a total of 12 nodes.
[15:07] Alright, everybody left me. Thanks all for joining this week!
[15:07] I'll never let go, Wolf
[15:07] I think we'll try discord two weeks from now.
[15:07] good shit guys, keep up the good work
[15:08] Thank you all! We have the best community!
[15:08] And definitely the best Memes!
[15:08] == Zaaaab [[email protected]/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.174.211.21.7] has joined #ravencoin-dev
[15:09] Have a great weekend.
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Subreddit Stats: ethtrader top posts from 2016-12-11 to 2018-08-03 13:38 PDT

Period: 600.44 days
Submissions Comments
Total 990 176734
Rate (per day) 1.65 292.11
Unique Redditors 578 23161
Combined Score 823734 1756585

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 40198 points, 55 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 14/Jun/2017 (2930 points, 8421 comments)
    2. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 15/Jun/2017 (1959 points, 8557 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 13/Jun/2017 (1764 points, 5164 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 12/Jun/2017 (1354 points, 12821 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 24/May/2017 (1348 points, 9422 comments)
    6. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 23/May/2017 (1237 points, 6366 comments)
    7. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 30/May/2017 (1144 points, 9015 comments)
    8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 25/May/2017 (1022 points, 8120 comments)
    9. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 10/Jun/2017 (1007 points, 7940 comments)
    10. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 17/Jun/2017 (910 points, 2901 comments)
  2. 16397 points, 1 submission: Pracy_
    1. Everytime Bitcoin drops (16397 points, 357 comments)
  3. 11930 points, 4 submissions: Justjoshmygosh
    1. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time (7352 points, 367 comments)
    2. This is NOT the end (2072 points, 196 comments)
    3. Welcome BACK to ethtrader (1964 points, 110 comments)
    4. Hello again, ethtrader... looks like I have some work to do (542 points, 10 comments)
  4. 11921 points, 2 submissions: _Mido
    1. Here you go (9787 points, 312 comments)
    2. How I felt this week (2134 points, 228 comments)
  5. 10537 points, 9 submissions: econoar
    1. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. (4020 points, 469 comments)
    2. SEC says they don't believe ETH to be a security. (1450 points, 169 comments)
    3. Today, Ethereum has processed 50% more txs than BTC. Ethereum currently has 17 pending TX and BTC has 45k. It takes $0.006 to move Ether in less than 20 seconds. (1406 points, 281 comments)
    4. Visa, IBM, Microsoft and USAA have all posted jobs in the past week looking for Ethereum developers (866 points, 46 comments)
    5. Goldman-Backed Startup Circle Launches No-Fee Foreign Payments Service. Built on Ethereum. (858 points, 86 comments)
    6. Etheremon is completely centralized and the owners can withdrawal all the funds from the contract. (660 points, 383 comments)
    7. On average, it's 59x cheaper to send an Ethereum transaction than a Bitcoin transaction. (488 points, 31 comments)
    8. Ethereum dapps expected to launch very soon. (400 points, 131 comments)
    9. Augur will deploy their contacts on the Ethereum mainnet on July 9! (389 points, 52 comments)
  6. 9349 points, 13 submissions: thepipebomb
    1. CNBC: Why buy Ethereum? (1510 points, 145 comments)
    2. CNBC - "I love Ethereum, I think Ethereum is the one to own here." (1234 points, 158 comments)
    3. CNBC: This is an incredible buying opportunity for Ethereum (988 points, 182 comments)
    4. Please boycott Vinny Lingham's Civic ICO (900 points, 198 comments)
    5. Pantera Capital Quantitative Researcher: By 2020 Ethereum's market cap will be 10x higher than Bitcoin's (749 points, 155 comments)
    6. Amazon Web Services Partners with ConsenSys to Simplify Enterprise Blockchains (690 points, 81 comments)
    7. Sharding may launch with Casper FFG, skipping the 1500 ETH requirement for staking and lowering it to 32 (537 points, 93 comments)
    8. When is $10,000 per ETH realistic? (512 points, 487 comments)
    9. Brian Kelly of CNBC on investing in Ethereum (495 points, 128 comments)
    10. Coinbase plans to add staking (482 points, 114 comments)
  7. 9187 points, 15 submissions: DCinvestor
    1. Personal Finance Rules for Being an Effective Holder (1307 points, 237 comments)
    2. Will Proof of Stake turn ETH into the best Store of Value coin? (1086 points, 144 comments)
    3. Catalysts for ETH Price Increases Over the Next 6 to 12 Months (662 points, 135 comments)
    4. What can the earlier days of Bitcoin teach us about holding Ethereum? (632 points, 151 comments)
    5. How to Survive Crypto Investing (in this market, or in any market) (631 points, 121 comments)
    6. The Most Important Crypto Theses for 2018 (and my current feelings on this market) (602 points, 317 comments)
    7. A Re-evaluation of Ethereum as Long Term Investment (versus new market entrants) (590 points, 136 comments)
    8. Opera introduces first browser with built-in Crypto Wallet for Ethereum (535 points, 64 comments)
    9. Coinbase is trending #1 on the Apple App Store (505 points, 39 comments)
    10. It's time for investors to pursue quality, and to stop chasing shit (503 points, 85 comments)
  8. 8910 points, 5 submissions: leafac1
    1. Would You Like to See Reddit Accept ETH as a Means to Pay for Gold? (3188 points, 193 comments)
    2. Most Popular Story on CNBC Tech: 'Bitcoin’s main rival Ethereum hits a fresh record high' (2467 points, 181 comments)
    3. Tweeted today: Casper (Proof of Stake) testnet is coming. (2106 points, 230 comments)
    4. Ethereum just processed 0.46% of Visa's total tx per day. And it did so without Ethereum Dapps using scaling solutions. (627 points, 78 comments)
    5. Perspective: It seems many are currently unaware that ETH will have a lower inflation rate than BTC (and BTC-Forks) come Proof of Stake & beyond. (522 points, 134 comments)
  9. 8756 points, 12 submissions: twigwam
    1. Apple's Steve Wozniak Dumps Facebook And Thinks Ethereum Could Be The New Apple (1148 points, 80 comments)
    2. “We owe it this new generation to respect their enthusiasm about virtual currencies with a thoughtful and balanced response, not a dismissive one.” -- CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (1119 points, 62 comments)
    3. "Today Ethereum transacted over $100,000,000 PER HOUR on average, with over 53% of transactions going to smart contracts -- really speaks for Ethereum's success as a contract platform" --- Paul Kohlhaas (1115 points, 39 comments)
    4. Reddit Founder: "I’m most bullish about Ethereum simply because people are actually building on it." [MSN] (1072 points, 185 comments)
    5. Google co-founder, Sergey Brin is a last minute addition to the Blockchain Summit panel on emerging technologies. Says he is mining Ethereum with his son. (875 points, 63 comments)
    6. BREAKING: Mt. Gox ‘Bitcoin Whale’ Trustee Won’t Sell Any More BTC -- (Pretty huge news for entire space and not getting deserved media coverage) (752 points, 74 comments)
    7. L.L. Bean says it might offer discounts for clothing that tracks you using the Ethereum blockchain (529 points, 117 comments)
    8. "Vitalik is both a genius and a class act. That’s why I sold a portion of my BTC for Ethereum in addition to lots of Bitcoin Cash." @RogerkVer (490 points, 151 comments)
    9. Coinbase has a $20 billion hedge fund coming onto its platform (437 points, 31 comments)
    10. eBay joins the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance (410 points, 50 comments)
  10. 8539 points, 5 submissions: sopun
    1. Stocks VS Crypto (2269 points, 53 comments)
    2. Bitconnect, Davorcoin and other scams continue being advertised on Coinmarketcap. We should take a stand as a community and push out these people who made a career out of scamming innocents (2227 points, 147 comments)
    3. A shitcoin ICO called Prodeum just exitscammed millions of dollars from investors and left them only this message on their ICO website (1542 points, 222 comments)
    4. Trevon James erased 39 of his YouTube videos promoting BitConnect yesterday. Looks like he starts getting worried about the class action lawsuit against him (1368 points, 223 comments)
    5. Tron's TRX whitepaper raises more red flags than a workers parade in Soviet Union (1133 points, 231 comments)
  11. 8370 points, 14 submissions: Mr_Yukon_C
    1. This is what leadership looks like -- I present to you, CFTC Chairman Giancarlo (829 points, 43 comments)
    2. Millennials are afraid stocks are too risky, so they're investing in crypto (790 points, 227 comments)
    3. OmiseGo Becomes the First Ethereum Unicorn With a Market Cap of $1 Billion (755 points, 155 comments)
    4. AMERICANS: Kill bill 1241 • ethereum (696 points, 66 comments)
    5. Coinbase prepares for a monster increase in trading (689 points, 174 comments)
    6. Microsoft – Decentralized Digital Identities and Blockchain – The Future as We See It. [Building on Ethereum] (652 points, 87 comments)
    7. MakerDAO and OmiseGO: Announcing Dai and OMG Collaborations (597 points, 115 comments)
    8. Coinbase Custody is Officially Open For Business – The Coinbase Blog (589 points, 92 comments)
    9. Scaling Ethereum to hundreds to thousands of transactions per second - TODAY! (514 points, 47 comments)
    10. George Soros Prepares to Trade Cryptocurrencies (504 points, 312 comments)
  12. 8141 points, 12 submissions: BeerBellyFatAss
    1. Bitfinex now trades all pairs against ETH. It’s time for Binance and the rest of the exchanges to do so as well. (2257 points, 219 comments)
    2. Number of Users on Coinbase Surpasses Number of Brokerage Accounts at Charles Schwab (821 points, 63 comments)
    3. Omise signed an agreement on the development of a national ID utilizing the ETDA and block chains of Thailand government agencies! We will continue to work on a number of projects that utilize block chains! (795 points, 112 comments)
    4. Federal Reserve Branch Adds Cryptocurrency Price Indexes [Yes, Really] (583 points, 64 comments)
    5. Catalonia Considering Cryptocurrency Post-Independence, Advised By Ethereum Creator (503 points, 73 comments)
    6. Germany’s Largest Bitcoin Trading Platform Will Soon Add Etheruem (499 points, 46 comments)
    7. Olaf Carlson - On Bloomberg Technology (12/01) - Ethereum to Surpass Bitcoin Market Cap by YE 2018 - Great Interview! (476 points, 141 comments)
    8. Casper is Pretty Close, Sharding Number One Priority Says Vitalik Buterin (474 points, 79 comments)
    9. EOS Now Has Only 100,000 Eth Left After Weeks of Selling (451 points, 140 comments)
    10. "Ethereum, which I think just touched $500 or is getting close, could be triple where it is as well" - Michael Novogratz (442 points, 106 comments)
  13. 7380 points, 5 submissions: EthTrader_Mod
    1. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 (4035 points, 10454 comments)
    2. Daily Discussion [Serious] - 16/Jun/2017 (1359 points, 4524 comments)
    3. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 28/May/2017 (685 points, 3331 comments)
    4. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 04/Jun/2017 (653 points, 3872 comments)
    5. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 29/May/2017 (648 points, 4635 comments)
  14. 7369 points, 9 submissions: Butta_TRiBot
    1. Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave. (2174 points, 426 comments)
    2. Vitalik Buterin: In my opinion, the current sharding spec as described is already good enough to get us to thousands of transactions per second (1554 points, 188 comments)
    3. Chinese Internet security giant 360 has found "a series of epic vulnerabilities" in the EOS platform. (703 points, 186 comments)
    4. Inflation rate will go down by ~90% with Casper and Sharding (3 ETH block reward -> 0.22ETH) (701 points, 214 comments)
    5. "Casper Testnet up right now and Sharding will come sooner than you think" - Karl Floersch [41:02] (501 points, 44 comments)
    6. Vitalik on Wechat: We have started developing a test version of Ethereum with sharding using python (445 points, 79 comments)
    7. Elon Musk: "Starting a candy company....Cryptocandy" (437 points, 83 comments)
    8. The reason I invested in Ethereum - motivated developers who even spend their free time explaining the tech (431 points, 79 comments)
    9. Congrats to @naterush1997 and @dannyryan for releasing v0.2 of the cbc Casper prototypes, last night! (423 points, 43 comments)
  15. 7084 points, 5 submissions: ScienceGuy9489
    1. New price target $1,000 (2993 points, 503 comments)
    2. I heard you guys miss me, looks like we're only going up from here (2100 points, 645 comments)
    3. Technical Analysis, Liftoff Due June 16th (758 points, 1019 comments)
    4. I predicted the last two liftoffs, the next one is by May 24th. (729 points, 529 comments)
    5. I predicted the last 3 liftoffs, this is a situation update (504 points, 458 comments)
  16. 6299 points, 10 submissions: jtnichol
    1. Joseph Lubin on Twitter: "#Bitcoin = A single app. #Ethereum = An entire app store. Thanks for having me on @BloombergTV, always a pleasure. https://t.co/LXKX8cF8BR" (1208 points, 89 comments)
    2. Microsoft helps launch world’s first blockchain-based investment product: settled on the public Ethereum chain. (926 points, 82 comments)
    3. This room feels like Q4 2016 all over again (774 points, 262 comments)
    4. Massive heap of rhetoric. But it needs to be said. (592 points, 245 comments)
    5. Friday Donut Day. (535 points, 52 comments)
    6. We're rocketing up in subscribers. Wow! (+1,160 subscribers today; 164% trend score) • TrendingReddits (516 points, 58 comments)
    7. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: Plasma implementations are already happening (491 points, 73 comments)
    8. Unlisted Video Message just for Ethtrader - Thanks for helping someone on Reddit yesterday struggling with life. (476 points, 77 comments)
    9. For all the drama lately I've made you some comfort food. I love you Ethtrader. Whale sized BLT's with a quart of Bloody Mary. (393 points, 87 comments)
    10. Vitalik Buterin on Twitter: "Scalability research and development subsidy programs: https://t.co/PwbkdUHbZS" (388 points, 40 comments)

Top Commenters

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  3. DCinvestor (8271 points, 430 comments)
  4. jtnichol (8161 points, 676 comments)
  5. econoar (8044 points, 600 comments)
  6. Nooku (7550 points, 399 comments)
  7. cutsnek (7201 points, 485 comments)
  8. cyoreligion (6716 points, 373 comments)
  9. antiprosynthesis (6285 points, 730 comments)
  10. oldskool47 (5572 points, 394 comments)
  11. Libertymark (5541 points, 1050 comments)
  12. Mr_Yukon_C (5370 points, 405 comments)
  13. loveYouEth (5105 points, 275 comments)
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  17. ethacct (4706 points, 304 comments)
  18. dillllllzzzzz (4594 points, 347 comments)
  19. ruvalm (4548 points, 260 comments)
  20. shouldbdan (4428 points, 270 comments)

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  3. Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time by Justjoshmygosh (7352 points, 367 comments)
  4. Dips are just happy little accidents by PaulieVideos (6217 points, 212 comments)
  5. It's one of the biggest moments of your life... what to wear? by moneyfink (5606 points, 485 comments)
  6. I'm a longterm hodler, but even i hate this sub sometimes. by shadow_op (4629 points, 286 comments)
  7. Literally.. by DAXEEY (4111 points, 162 comments)
  8. [ETH Daily Discussion] - 22/May/2017 by EthTrader_Mod (4035 points, 10454 comments)
  9. Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly by saintmax (4027 points, 190 comments)
  10. Ethereum is now processing more transactions a day than all other cryptos combined. by econoar (4020 points, 469 comments)

Top Comments

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  5. 1106 points: mikewirkijowski's comment in Here you go
  6. 1052 points: phigo50's comment in My wife just talked me out of selling $10,000 eth
  7. 952 points: PcChip's comment in Vitalik Buterin: If all that we accomplish is lambo memes and immature puns about "sharting", then I WILL leave.
  8. 865 points: deleted's comment in Ethereum is UP since last month! Can we get this post to all to show everyone the tides are turning quickly
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  10. 829 points: khalo_'s comment in Welcome to ethtrader new people, let me save you some time
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Dubes vs Jeran, the fraud case malarky

This subject actually came up before, and I mentioned it when Red's Rhetoric was chasing this rumour. However I recently fell upon this rather fun back and forth between Lord Eric Dubay, saviour of the Flat Earth Movement, and Jeran 'everything is fake and gay!' Campanella.
Basically it appears that Jeran was involved with a gentleman who was/is wanted for fraud, and walking off with $80,000, considering that Jeran has a very public profile and if he was genuinely trying to hide from anyone I don't doubt that he had no idea and isn't wanted for fraud, however this dialogue between them shows the hot-headedness of both of these flat Earth behemoths.
Eric Dubay: Everything is cataloged here in this thread for everyone who wants to see the truth instead of listen to Jeran carry on with his lies about me and IFERS:ifers.boards.net/thread/522/saying-hi-happy-jeranism You have been formally accused of stealing that money Jeran, and JeranCampanella.com was created by the man who accused you of stealing the $80,000. I'm sure you will maintain that you did not, but I am just stating what I have read, that is NOT libel. On that website that was made about you it claims that you threatened him much like you're doing to me now! web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ If you are innocent then you have nothing to worry about man, I'm just reporting what people on IFERS dug up about your past. Just saying hi! Happy to be here! Jeranism | The International Flat Earth Research... ifers.boards.net
Jeranism Changer: You are fucking done. I will go to court then. What an idiot! I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR
Jeran's insane rant as follows : Jeranism Changer: I wrote for cryptocoinnews.com
Eric Dubay: Go to court with what? That I reported on someone's accusation of you? Good luck with that.
Jeranism Changer: www.cryptocoinsnews.com/authojeran-campanella/ Jeran Campanella, Author at CCN: Financial Bitcoin News I'm a married, self employed husband, father, friend... cryptocoinsnews.com
Jeranism Changer: YOU ACCUSED ME
Jeranism Changer: I have it screen shot
Jeranism Changer: You have publicly stated that I stole $80,000 WHAT KIND OF RESEARCH DO YOU CALL THIS?
Eric Dubay: You can read it yourself: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ Please explain yourself. Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella… web.archive.org
Jeranism Changer: bitscan.com/articles/autho4302 Bitcoin News, Analysis, Interviews and Features - BitScan App for iPhone - The World of Bitcoin... bitscan.com
Jeranism Changer: I also wrote for bitscan you idiot
Jeranism Changer: That is being reported by the guy who stole the $80k!!!
Jeranism Changer: DO you think police don't do their job?
Eric Dubay: Right, he said that you stole it, but you say that he stole it, correct?
Jeranism Changer: If I was guilty of anything I would be arrested you fool! You did no research! You cannot just post things you find on the internet on a page that the FBI has removed OMG
Jeranism Changer: This is classic
Jeranism Changer: NO! He is wanted by the FBI
Jeranism Changer: I'm right here clown! Call the police. Call the FBI
Jeranism Changer: I was the one that found out about him so he posted that as retaliation
Jeranism Changer: YOU DID ZERO RESEARCH YOU FOOL
Jeranism Changer: See what happens?
Jeranism Changer: You got so fucking paranoid you fucking made up a story! How would I be Dr. Michael Moriarty? You think I just slipped the FBI? Wow. I was writing for bitcoin sites as I explained and got an admissionof guilt from Moriarty
Jeranism Changer: What do you want? All emails? Between me and Ricky James? Me and Moriarty? All the ICANN and Corespndence with IC3?
Jeranism Changer: OMG you posted something from the way back machine? That was pulled when the investigators saw it was from him.
Eric Dubay: What's your proof that that guy exists? The only record of his existence I can find is your text interview with him.
Eric Dubay: His picture looks a lot like Connor McGregor in a top hat smile emoticon
Jeranism Changer: My evidence... anything you want... emails?
Jeranism Changer: I have months worth? Vancouver police reports
Jeranism Changer: HOW COULD I BE GUILTY IF I USE MY REAL NAME
Eric Dubay: Anyway Jeran, to appease your wishes I will state that I have no idea what happened with this case. Someone at IFERS brought it to my attention. You were indeed accused of this, but I personally will not weigh in on the legitimacy of the claims, okay?
Jeranism Changer: I can't believe of all people you just post this shit when I worked so hard for 7 months to recover funds from a scammer because I felt bad AND IT WAS NO FAULT OF MINE
Jeranism Changer: You already did!
Eric Dubay: You asked me to formally retract that statement, though, so I am.
Jeranism Changer: I worked my ass off to catch a scammer- I am no longer involved in bitcoin because this can happen
Jeranism Changer: This man set-up fake sites in the dozens, stole money and isn't real and with TOR and Proxies stole over $245,000
Eric Dubay: They haven't caught him yet though right?
Jeranism Changer: No he isn't real! How do you catch him?
Jeranism Changer: You don't think my ip was checked when I AM THE ONE WHO GOT THE ADMISSION?
Eric Dubay: Who created his persona?
Jeranism Changer: Haha oh wow. How would I know? We had several leads, about 3-4 names but they are people who are scammers
Jeranism Changer: His name is Eddie Temple
Jeranism Changer: same guy who runs this dockets.justia.com/.../waedce/2:2011mc00007/54559 craigslist Inc v. Tse et al Other case filed on July 29, 2011 in the Washington Eastern District Court dockets.justia.com
Jeranism Changer: Also goes by Shui Young Richard Tse
Jeranism Changer: Also runs operations under Eddie Temple Promotions LTD
Jeranism Changer: He lost a 1.6 million dollar case to Craigs List and they couldn't find him
Jeranism Changer: That's why bitcoin is no good. Nobody could have done this with money or PayPal or credit cards or checks.
Eric Dubay: Alright dude, I appreciate hearing your side of it, I was just reporting on what I'd read.
Jeranism Changer: That's not cool!
Jeranism Changer: Where you read what?
Jeranism Changer: Show me where you read that I stole $80,000
Eric Dubay: It's publicly available on the internet: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella… web.archive.org
Jeranism Changer: And why you wouldn't come to me first
Jeranism Changer: DUDE YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
Jeranism Changer: Who would make a site in someone else's name?
Jeranism Changer: the site name was jerancampanella.com
Eric Dubay: Wasn't that site created by the person who accused you?
Jeranism Changer: Do you think that if you extorted me or blackmailed me I would make ericdubay.com or call the goddamn police
Jeranism Changer: Accused me? THAT ISN'T HOW YOU ACCUSE PEOPLE
Jeranism Changer: It was made by an anonymous website scammer
Eric Dubay: So an anonymous website scammer decided to make a website with your full name and accuse you of scamming?
Jeranism Changer: Of course it was... I outed him and got his admission
Jeranism Changer: WHO ELSE WOULD?
Eric Dubay: Where is his admission?
Jeranism Changer: Wow dude I have lost all respect. You can't even use your brain
Jeranism Changer: If I did a crime I would be arrested
Jeranism Changer: I'll show you even though we should be incourt
Jeranism Changer: YOU ARE AN ASS Eric Dubay
Jeranism Changer: One sec
Eric Dubay: Why am I an ass who can't use his brain for asking questions?
Jeranism Changer: Jeranism Changer's photo.
At this point it appears that Jeran posts images, probably evidence in his favour, however the transcript I found didn't include it
Jeranism Changer: hold up- that is when he responded he had no idea the accusation
Jeranism Changer: Jeranism Changer's photo.
Again appears to be a photo
Jeranism Changer: Wait- what did you say to me?
Jeranism Changer: Why am I an ass who can't use his brain for asking questions?
Jeranism Changer: what does this mean^
Eric Dubay: Yes, you called me an ass and said I can't use my brain.
Eric Dubay: apparently because I've asked you questions
Jeranism Changer: Dude- you did no research and said publicly that I stole $80k
Jeranism Changer: You could ask me first
Enter what appears to be a bystander sick of the thread
Kenneth DeGrasse: apologize. shake hands. get back to work.
Jeranism Changer: How in the hell would I be out and about under my real name if what you said was true?
Jeranism Changer: Jeranism Changer's photo.
Jeranism Changer: This is the kind of person I am Eric Dubay
Jeranism Changer: I was offerred hush money by this thief
Jeranism Changer: I refused and he finally admitted to the theft
Eric Dubay: But he hasn't been caught?
Jeranism Changer: How many times do I have to tell you that we tried for 7 months
Jeranism Changer: I was trying to do good and I had my name dragged through the mud
Jeranism Changer: spent 100's of hours tracking him and all for a few leads
Jeranism Changer: this is why bitcoin is badd
Eric Dubay: How do we know you aren't Michael Moriarty? He sounds a lot like you in those emails and that's what the person who made that website accused you of.
Jeranism Changer: once you pay in btc, it is gone. The customer sent him 80k and he kept it
Jeranism Changer: OMG.. You don't think this was checked? IP addresses Eric Dubay
Eric Dubay: You could've shifted the blame to this fake guy to clear yourself. After 7 months they gave up? IP addresses can be changed.
Jeranism Changer: Do you want the phone # for the Detectives? IP3? Ricky James? Who?
Eric Dubay: We already have all that on IFERS
Eric Dubay: If you have nothing to hide, this publicly available information shouldn't be a concern.
Jeranism Changer: YOU SAID I STOLE 80k you clown
Jeranism Changer: Eric you want to know the sad truth?
Jeranism Changer: The real truth of bitcoin?
Eric Dubay: What's that?
Jeranism Changer: bitlaunder.com/ Launder Bitcoin Completely erase the origins of your bitcoin and de-couple them from previous transactions. We... bitlaunder.com
Jeranism Changer: He still runs the sites
Eric Dubay: MM?
Jeranism Changer: coinchimp.com/ Anonymous Bitcoin Exchange CoinChimp enables you to buy and sell Bitcoins with cash in your local city quickly, easily and anonymously.... coinchimp.com
Jeranism Changer: All Dr. Michael Moriarty
Jeranism Changer: Yes MM
Jeranism Changer: WTF
Eric Dubay: WTF What?
Jeranism Changer: Call the police and have them come check me. You are unbelievable
Jeranism Changer: Because with bitcoin- as I said- you can steal
Jeranism Changer: The money is not traceable and he just keeps going
Jeranism Changer: Do you want to talk to Ricky James?
Eric Dubay: I'm just responding to your diatribe, I'm not on a witch hunt, people on IFERS were digging stuff up and I reported on what I read. I'm not interested in pursuing you or this matter. You tagged me and threatened me so I'm here responding to your threats.
Jeranism Changer: hold on he made a pdf
Eric Dubay: I've seen the pdf
Jeranism Changer: SO you already know
Jeranism Changer: Call Ricky
Eric Dubay: I've read, but I don't know, I'm just looking at the evidence from all angles.
Jeranism Changer: Call Detective Fenton Vancouver police
Jeranism Changer: NO YOU ARENT YOU SAID I STOLE 80k
Eric Dubay: I've retracted my statement per your threat.
Jeranism Changer: Is this how you treat evidence? You took no time and trusted your paranoid little clan
Eric Dubay: You demanded I retract said statement and tagged me in your diatrbie.
Jeranism Changer: on my Youtube and your site?
Eric Dubay: Just a sec.
Jeranism Changer: You have showed your true colors Mr. Eric Dubay
Jeranism Changer: Unbelievable that you would make that claim using no evidence other than a site in my own name calling me a scammer?
Enter a popcorn chomping observer with his oar, and incorrect spelling
Don Adams: This is to funny!!!!
And expected response from Jeran
Jeranism Changer: Cool Don- Youre an ass too
Jeranism Changer: He did no research
Jeranism Changer: confirmation bias by paranoid little minions. Those are your friends Eric?
Jeranism Changer: You have proven me absolutely right. That forum you have is a problem. You don't need protectors Eric Dubay
Don Adams: Man you need to grow a pair! I have no investment in either of you 2 asshats.
Jeranism Changer: Well it isn't funny
Eric Dubay: Ok, I have corrected both on YouTube and the forum. I had originally written "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been caught using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." But as you have corrected me here, you were not "caught," but merely "accused of" so I have changed them to say: "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been accused of using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." Neither of these are "libelous" though. The first one was simply incorrect because you haven't been caught.
The tail end of the conversation sees many getting involved
Dorcas Leigh: when the truth is presented... it is easy to see.... whereas a lie, can NEVER be proved
Jeranism Changer: A scammer stole a man's savings and because I have a heart I helped him and searched and gathered evidence for 7 months
Jeranism Changer: THEN TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO SAYS HE IS ABOUT TRUTH ACCUSE ME OF BEING THE VERY MAN I WAS HUNTING?
Jeranism Changer: YOU ARE SO DUMB
Jeranism Changer: Show me where that accusation is?
Jeranism Changer: Nevrermind- I'm taking you to court- gave you your chance- Its called Libel. I have saved this thread as well as all original posts
This next post has lost it's formatting and it's hard to work out how much is the quote and how much isn't
Fred Dibb-Western: 22 minutes ago Admin, lizardking and 2 more like this. Quote Post Options Post by thinkforyourself on 22 minutes ago
There is no doubt about it; he is a scammer and a Government Shill.
We cannot trust anything that he says or does.
you are already condemned Jeran lol
Don Adams: Lol
Eric Dubay: Lol is right.
Jeranism Changer: Good for you all. Hope you sell a bunch of books Eric. I gave you every shot
Dorcas Leigh: Eric... bro... you need to put yerself in his shoes for a minute... look at who YOU are .. to other's... and who Jeran is... to other's... and realEYES how this is affecting everyone... and be responsible for what YOU do... this is yer MOM speaking... !!!! heart emoticon
Eric Dubay: Saying you were caught for a scam you were only accused of is not libelous.
Eric Dubay: It's incorrect, and I have corrected the mistake to say "accused of."
Jeranism Changer: I was not accused you clown
Jeranism Changer: THE SCAMMER ACCUSED ME
Eric Dubay: This is an accusation: web.archive.org/.../http://jerancampanella.com/ Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist | Jeran Campanella is a scammer and extortionist Jeran Campanella Scammer Extortionist July 13, 2014 admin 1 Comment Jeran Campanella posts lies about Dr. Michael Moriarty and attempts to extort him for 20 Bitcoins to halt his nefarious campaign of personal defamation .. EMAIL PROOF of EXTORTION/BLACKMAIL: After corresponding with Jeran Campanella… web.archive.org
Jeranism Changer: If someone accuses a crime- you go to the police
Eric Dubay: That's what you say. You say he's the scammer, he says you are.
Jeranism Changer: Can't you use your fucking head!!!!
Jeranism Changer: OMG I am right here stupid clown
Eric Dubay: Yes I can.
Eric Dubay: Hello.
Jeranism Changer: That site isn't up anymore
Jeranism Changer: No you can't
Jeranism Changer: You are an idiot
Eric Dubay: You are emotional.
Jeranism Changer: I respected you
Jeranism Changer: I spoke highly about you
Eric Dubay: I respected you, that's why I gave you $200
Jeranism Changer: YEAH!
Eric Dubay: Same here.
Jeranism Changer: IM LIVID
Eric Dubay: I see that.
Jeranism Changer: I CHASED THAT SCAMMER FOR 7 MONTHS NOW U SAY I AM HIM
Jeranism Changer: How does that feel to me?
Eric Dubay: It shouldn't feel like anything if it's false. I'm just reporting on a claim made publicly on the internet that anyone can see.
Jeranism Changer: There is no fucking legit claim! C'mon use your brain dude
Eric Dubay: Why are you so upset dude?
Jeranism Changer: accusing me of extrotion
Jeranism Changer: the site is jerancampanella.com
Jeranism Changer: Are you kidding?
Eric Dubay: Yes, be mad at him.
Jeranism Changer: Cause you blindly trust your team of crackheads over there
Jeranism Changer: The site has been removed right?
Eric Dubay: No I don't, I'm asking you, but you're just acting more suspicious.
Eric Dubay: Threatening me and getting upset, calling me names.
Jeranism Changer: Because the IC3 found it unvalid
Jeranism Changer: You pulled the info off a site that had been removed
Dorcas Leigh: wrong Eric... you are not considering who YOU are.. people value your 'opinion'.. and are moved by it... it would be different if you were just an ouotside spectator... but you are NOT and Jeran is not... you are being irresponsible and childish and egocentered... in your stillness?
Eric Dubay: So what do you guys want?
Eric Dubay: You tagged me and told me to respond.
Eric Dubay: I'm here.
Jeranism Changer: I want respect
Eric Dubay: Lol. Earn it.
Jeranism Changer: Wow
Jeranism Changer: I told you I would
Dorcas Leigh: eye want you boys to kiss and make up ...we have work to do
Eric Dubay: I wasn't impressed with the laser test, were you?
Eric Dubay: Why hasn't it been shined across the ocean yet?
Jeranism Changer: Eric can we talk PM
Eric Dubay: Publicly is fine.
Jeranism Changer: It has... did you watch last night?
Jeranism Changer: And by the way- I'll send you the $200 back
Jeranism Changer: LAST THING I WANT
Jeranism Changer: absolute no interest
Eric Dubay: I don't want my money back, I just want you to stop threatening me.
Eric Dubay: Will you stop threatening me with unfounded lawsuits?
Jeranism Changer: I didn't threaten you- you trusted your paranoid crack research team that did terrible investigating
Jeranism Changer: Ever heard of confirmation bias?
Eric Dubay: Just because I said: "we have discovered on the thread above that you have been accused of using multiple aliases and scamming people out of bitcoin money, one person out of $80,000." That is not libel, it is reporting on an actual accusation. You have given your side and I really don't care to be honest.
It's at this point one of the onlookers has a bloody good idea
Dorcas Leigh: take it to the motel guys.. and come back when you cool off... people will be saving these conversations and throwing them back at you.. be careful.. take responsibility for this movemnet which you have in a BIG way been the impetus for
Does anyone take any notice of Dorcas Leigh?
Jeranism Changer: ERIC IT IS A LIE
Jeranism Changer: Show me where it says 80k
Jeranism Changer: You keep lying that is how I know you did no research
Jeranism Changer: You trusted your dumb followers
Jeranism Changer: Show me said accusation
Jeranism Changer: The link you keep posting says 20 btc
Jeranism Changer: Jeranism Changer's photo.
Eric Dubay: Ricky James said 80K: ifers.boards.net/post/11355/thread Just saying hi! Happy to be here! Jeranism | The International Flat Earth Research... ifers.boards.net
Jeranism Changer: Prove the $80,000 claim you keep making
Eric Dubay: It's not my claim, I'm reporting on someone else's claim.
Jeranism Changer: RICKY JAMES is the customer accusing MM
Jeranism Changer: You said it as fact- it is a lie
Eric Dubay: And MM is suspected to be a fake name you created.
Jeranism Changer: show me anywhere is says I am accused of 80k
Eric Dubay: I said you were accused of it, that's true.
Jeranism Changer: That's another count
Jeranism Changer: These are all being recorded
Jeranism Changer: You can't just say lies
Jeranism Changer: NO IDIOT WOULD EVER THINK I AM MM IF THEY ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO THIS
Eric Dubay: Good, then chill out.
Jeranism Changer: There are email records - talk to RickyJames
Jeranism Changer: Eric you think I deserve this?
Eric Dubay: Deserve what?
Jeranism Changer: Moriarty put me through straight hell for 8 months
Jeranism Changer: Deserve what?
Jeranism Changer: Dude I cannot believe what happened to you
At this point I personally was feeling a bit of pity for Jeran, but what came next was, well, paranoia only capable by someone who believes that the world is flat
Jeranism Changer: They got to you didn't they
Jeranism Changer: smh
Jeranism Changer: All about truth while posting false accusation after blatant lie
Christian Acero: hope [email protected] getting paid forall this cyphening...etc
Jeranism Changer: You read the PDF Eric? That Ricky James wrote?
The paranoia... it is beginning to hurt
Dorcas Leigh: eye cant believe Eric posted something which would injure Jeran, without confronting him first... right after JUST sending him 200 bucks... you know what... this is starting to stink ... of, "gotten to'... if not... then grow up Eric, you acted hastily and without consideration for what it may cause , not only Jeran, but this entire movement...do you GET that??! n... say you are sorry, and tell the TRUTH....... did someone threaten you recently?
Jeranism Changer: All he had to do is think
Jeranism Changer: Use critical thinking and not confirmation bias
Eric Dubay: Ok, I'm sorry and will use more critical thinking next time, okay daddy?
Jeranism Changer: You guys went on a witch hunt and thought you found something
Jeranism Changer: I don't want to be your daddy- friends woulda been good
Jeranism Changer: Did you read the pdf?
Eric Dubay: Ok friend.
Dorcas Leigh: eye dont mind bein yer daddy.... lolol
Michael J Kahnke: Some crack team over there at IFERS, eh? If I were you, Eric Dubay? I'd delete the post, and not change around a couple words to see if you can make it less slanderous. I think Jeran has explained and shared enough that we can see this is an unfair attack, motivated by someone who is seeking a dishonest gain. To continue to feed these rumors by twisting the language around looks baaaaad. You just bought the scandal when you decided to 'tweak' it, instead of erase it.
Jeranism Changer: If you read that just think- how would Ricky James know to email me?
Jeranism Changer: Here we go
Jeranism Changer: Watch out it's Eric's handlers
Jeranism Changer: Eric I want to see you understand me
Jeranism Changer: THINK DUDE- According to your little theory I would have to be all 3 people
Jeranism Changer: In which case what? I stole 80k from me?
Jeranism Changer: You jumped to conclusions and this is the order of the day at your paranoid forum
Jeranism Changer: Innocent till proven guilty..... You guys go by guilty till we find proof then confirmed guilty
Fred Dibb-Western: you should see the circle jerk which is going down at the IFERS right now
Jeranism Changer: Oh I bet
Jeranism Changer: They thought they found something
Jeranism Changer: Turns out they found a case that was me being a good person and helping someone try and catch a thief for 8 months- costing my family and I money while I had my name dragged in the mud
These damn people keep getting involved about what the thread was originally about, damn them for staying on topic
Josh Bailey: Jeranism, how far can that laser actually shine spec wise?
Jeranism Changer: BUT there is no way that any investigation could come to the conclusion that I am MM
Eric Dubay: Do you know how guilty you sound?
Eric Dubay: You won't shut up about it.
Jeranism Changer: MM is still running sites... stealing money... FBI is on him- like Eric and his team beat the FBI in realizing it was me the journalist the whole time. And I woulda gotta way with it too if it wasn't for those kids
Jeranism Changer: Keep bringing it clown
Jeranism Changer: Every time you know is another charge>
Jeranism Changer: You know that right?
Jeranism Changer: 14 so far
Eric Dubay: Lol.
Eric Dubay: 14 charges of exposing douches on the net?
Jeranism Changer: Wow
Jeranism Changer: You have no brain
Eric Dubay: 15, right?
Jeranism Changer: None
Eric Dubay: Can't say douche?
Jeranism Changer: no
Dorcas Leigh: take responsibility for actions quickly... if yer gonna be a truth guru.. wee little folk...are gonna make you earn it... grow up... dont hang in that ego or it will destroy you
Jeranism Changer: you can say that
Eric Dubay: Lol, and what are the 14 things you decided I can't say?
Jeranism Changer: every time you said 80k and post that post that the IC3 pulled
Josh Bailey: the last thing I wanna hear is something to do with the flat earth being in court, I reckon that would infect the movement big time
Jeranism Changer: I don't want to take this guy to court
Jeranism Changer: You have no idea the respect I had till 12 hours ago
Jeranism Changer: makes me sick
Josh Bailey: mate just do your testing and you will gain unbelievable respect, there is 7+ billion people in the world and youtube is a hit. When you get your test results in everything is gonna blow up for the good of the world lol
Eric Dubay: Yes, focus on that please.
Eric Dubay: Let's see this video.
Eric Dubay: Can you get to work on that for us instead of threatening and freaking out at me for posting links?
Jeranism Changer: We are done Eric Dubay
Eric Dubay: Yay!
Josh Bailey: it would be best man, I don't wanna sound like I am taking sides because I am not, but focusing on negativity never gets anything good done, lets focus on the test and good will come i promise you. You can never solve a situation with the vibration that caused it.
Jeranism Changer: Did you see the live stream last night?
Jeranism Changer: Let me guess you talked more shit on my YT making comments on the video you haven't seen
Eric Dubay: I thought so, but didn't see the part where the laser goes all the way across the ocean and proves the flat Earth.
Dorcas Leigh: we feel that too Jeran ... .. its like disillusionment and betrayal... we all LOVE you Eric! ... and Jeran! heart emoticon
Jeranism Changer: Then you didn't watch at all
Jeranism Changer: You are talking shit and all this through what your team says
Eric Dubay: I watched on Ustream and YouTube, sorry I missed it. Can you give me a link with a time-stamp?
Jeranism Changer: You don't even exist anymore
Josh Bailey: is there any chance it can be uploaded to your channel, I missed it
Jeranism Changer: You are lizardking
Jeranism Changer: Eric you didn't see it but talked shit this morning about it
Eric Dubay: No, I'm not. Now who's making unfounded accusations? I'm taking you to court for calling me lizardking. Did you know that's libelous?
Jeranism Changer: THAT IS REAL RESEARCH?
Jeranism Changer: That's truth?
Eric Dubay: Let me copy/paste the definition of libel for you to read, Jeran...
Jeranism Changer: No it sin't
Josh Bailey: lol, eric tuck your tale in bro tongue emoticon
Jeranism Changer: Lol;
Jeranism Changer: Eric can you not just admit that your forum clan is a little over- protective and they are going to get you in trouble
Josh Bailey: Jeran, can the recording be uploaded to your channel?
Jeranism Changer: IM A GOOD GUY
EDIT: Please be aware that everything here is verbatim according to Dubay's forums, All I have done is format it so it's easier to read
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